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Father’s Day game chat

White Sox at Dodgers, 1:10 p.m.
Dee Gordon, SS
Elian Herrera, LF
Juan Rivera, 1B
Andre Ethier, RF
Jerry Hairston Jr., 2B
Juan Uribe, 3B
Tony Gwynn Jr., CF
Matt Treanor, C
Chris Capuano, P

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120 Comments

  1. bcmaiden

    No IDJ @2nd again. Why not give him a start? Both Jerry & Tony are slumping and Jerry is weak defensively. 

  2. Anonymous

    A Happy Father’s Day to all DT’ers and friends.  Lets celebrate today with a win!
    Cheers everybody :)

  3. Anonymous

    Happy Father’s Day to all Dads where-ever you may be.

  4. Are slumps one game now?  Hairston reached base five times in his two previous starts and has a .360 OBP this month. He has made three errors all season and more tremendous plays this week. 

    http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22268605&c_id=mlb

    http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22268751&c_id=mlb

    • Anonymous

       I generally with you, Jon, but I would rather see Hairston at third and IDJ or Herrera at second.

    • bcmaiden

      Yes, Jerry is walking but not hitting. He’s 0 for his last 13 and in the middle of the lineup. You showed good defensive examples but he has just as many bad ones. To me the error stat doesn’t truly signify every mistake a player makes. e.g. When an outfielder misplays a fly ball that should be handled but doesn’t receive an error because he didn’t touch the ball. 

  5. Anonymous

    Uribe should never hit this high in the order, even if Juan Castro’s in it.

    •  Cute. Alas, no Borks (Robert, who as Solicitor General fired Cox after Richardson and Ruckelshaus refused to do so).

  6. KT

    Good play Juan

  7. KT

    Good hit Elian

  8. Anonymous

    Dee needs to learn to drag. At the plate too long on that bunt.

  9. KT

    yes good call ump

  10. KT

    cappy wiggles out of it again…pitch count rising

  11. Anonymous

    Okay – Vin Scully announcing Hello Kitty Day is just a little surreal somehow. Just doesn’t jive…

  12. KT

    Excellent catch Dre!!!!

  13. KT

    Gywnn fought that ball all the way….white shirts giving him trouble

  14. KT

    Come on Dee start it off

  15. KT

    Elian should be leading off

  16. KT

    great catch by Beckham

  17. Anonymous

    It just sort of hit me again. Although I have thought the Dodgers are playing above themselves so far this year, they have great starting pitching. And that is perhaps the best thing to have! They also most likely have more of it coming in the next few years. With new ownership and perhaps the resources to address other areas this bodes well for the future.

  18. KT

    Good hit Juan
     
    Come on Tony two out rbi

  19. KT

    Another fantastic catch by Dre!!!

  20. KT

    Fine bunt by Cappy…He needs to teach others the craft

  21. Anonymous

    Did you hear Vin about Capo, the bunt artist—-“dropping a poached egg on toast.”

  22. KT

    Nice Dee now take second
     
    Elian…make up for that error

  23. KT

    Good job Matty!!

  24. KT

    He didn’t leave early

  25. What the heck is going on? And why didn’t Donnie leave the dugout?

  26. KT

    Umps should be fined for terrible calls

  27. Anonymous

    Another BLOWN CALL by another LOUSY UMPIRE.  When will it ever end?  Never, with Bud Selig in charge.  EXPAND INSTANT REPLAY!!!

    • Anonymous

      I think the media has also been complicit in this horrible situation, by giving inadequate attention to blown calls and their effect on game results.  When an umpire’s call reverses the outcome, it’s a travesty.  It’s about time more attention is paid to such instances, especially when there is such an obvious solution to the problem.

      • Well said, but one problem is far fewer media outlets cover games anymore.  Where there used to be about seven or eight newspapers that had beat writers following the Dodgers, for instance, I think the L.A. Times is the only one now.  That reduction also applies to non-sports reporting.

        • Anonymous

          But with all the blogging websites (including this one), there should be MORE opportunities to publicize the problem, rather than fewer.

  28. To properly make that call, the umpire needed to be lined up at an angle behind third so that he could view the baserunner and the catch at the same time.  Was he?  I doubt it.  I’d like to see a replay of the ump’s position.  The replay showed that the runner did not leave early.   

    • Anonymous

      Not every umpire can see to make every call.  But if he didn’t have a chance to see it, he shouldn’t have been overruling the other ump’s call.

  29. Vin, respecting his audience and his power over it, did not say that Meals blew the call because it might have incited something–compare that with Ken Harrelson and similarly incompetent broadcasters.  Which makes Jerry Meals the Ken Harrelson of umpiring, because he has really made some terrible calls–and I’m the resident defender of umpires.

  30. Anonymous

    It wasn’t as bad as Bob Davidson’s call on Nishioka in the first WBC. That was atrocious by Bob Davidson standards.

  31. For all the criticism Andre gets here and elsewhere for his defense, he has made three great plays today.

    • Anonymous

      IMHO that criticism was never warranted.  I’ve been watching a lot of Dodger games the past few years, and Ethier has been an excellent outfielder – great range, great arm, etc.  He’s solid on defense in my book.

  32. KT

    DRE AGAIN!!!!!!

  33. I think Andre is a GOOD defensive outfielder.  I don’t get the criticism.  I also wonder:  I’m not sure the rulebook is clear (there’s a shock) on whether an appeal can take place after an intervening action.  I don’t think it refers to timeouts, but there was a timeout in between, and I wonder whether D. Baseball was objecting on rulebook grounds.  He didn’t protest the game, so, probably he was just questioning Meals’s judgment and eyesight, neither of which has ever impressed me.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know the specific process, but I would think an appeal of the call AND a protest would have both been appropriate and should have been made (I don’t know if either was or wasn’t).

    • Anonymous

      As long as no pitch was thrown between when the play happened and when the appeal happened, it’s ok.

  34. Anonymous

    I must say, as atrocious as Ken Harrelson is in the booth – and he is truly atrocious, the worst in the business, with his incessant homerism and insipid sayings – his companion, Steve Stone, is actually pretty darn good.  Aside from not suffering from Harrelson’s flaws, he’s also shown some insight into the pitcher’s strategy, not surprising giving his own experience.  And he just came out with this humorous gem, played straight: “They’re doing exactly what you want to do on getaway day up in Minnesota.  In the twelfth inning, they now have an hour plus rain delay.  Very nice.”  :)

    •  nsxtasy, Steve Stone worked for about 15 years with Harry Caray on Cubs broadcasts and was a fine analyst while also having to do a lot of extra stuff as Harry declined.  Since then, he has been with the Cubs and then the White Sox, and always popular in Chicago–the irony being, he isn’t a homer, which helped lead to his exit from the Cubs.  His voice is a bit monotonic, but he’s really good in my opinion.

  35. KT

    Nice hit Bobby
     
    Come on Dee

  36. KT

    OMG  he can’t bunt

  37. Anonymous

    I would have pinch hit AJ for Gordon.  :(

    • Anonymous

      Gordon deserved those boos.  It’s not his fault that the coaches told him to bunt, but it’s his fault that he can’t do so successfully.

      • Anonymous

        It is their fault to ask him to do something with two strikes that he failed to do on another count. He was not likely to hit into a DP, so letting him hit with two strikes would have made sense.

  38. KT

    Nice Elian!! way to direct Bobby

  39. KT

    Nice going Juan….Tie Game!!

     

    Come on Dre  untie this thing

  40. KT

    Let’s go Jerry

  41. Anonymous

    I think the Sox made a mistake by yanking Quintana.

    I’m not complaining, though. :)

  42. Anonymous

    What would compel Ventura to pull a cruising starter after 77 pitches? Not that I’m complaining.

  43. Anonymous

    Now I’d have AJ pinch hit, and if it goes to the 11th, stay in the game. You have an OBP specialist, it’s the perfect situation to use him.

    EDIT: Loney instead, against a lefty. :(

  44. bcmaiden

    I love Dee, BUT he needs to go down. He still has a lot to learn and improve on. Elian needs to bat 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 5th. Love the guy. 

  45. Anonymous

    just tuned in, looks like an exciting game

    • KT

      we should be celebrating already but the ump blew an appeal call

      • Anonymous

        I don’t buy that.  Yes, the ump blew the call earlier, which would have tied the game.  But everything after that, might have played out differently had the call been made properly and the game been tied.  I don’t think you can assume that the exact same things would have happened either way.

        • Anonymous

           Exactly, we’re talking counter-factual history here.

        • KT

          your right we could have scored Dee from second in that inning

  46. KT

    Nice Tony!!!!

  47. Anonymous

    Again, I’d pinch hit AJ for Gordon.  But they won’t.  :(

  48. KT

    at least he won’t be asked to bunt…Come on Dee

  49. KT

    Game!!!!!

  50. Anonymous

    Huzzah!

  51. bcmaiden

    Oh Deeeeeeeeeee you’re going to be awesome someday in the near, near future. 

  52. Anonymous

    Dee Gordon, GMC Player of the Game!  (Shows how much I know, LOL!)

  53. Matt’s gonna hurt somebody with those open-field tackles. Poor Gordon!

    • KT

      He’s tough on everyone….No matter the size of the person

  54. KT

    good to get the game even though the ump tried to deny us
     
    Got the rubber game of the series….YES!!!!!

  55. bcmaiden

    Go Mariners. Walk off please. Bottom 9 no outs 1st & 2nd. 

    •  And . . . Saunders bunted back to the pitcher, who got the lead runner at 3rd. One out, still 1st and 2nd.

  56. Okay, Seattle, now beat the Giants on your home field at Safeco.

  57. Anonymous

    Dodgers had been 4-11 against the Sox in regular-season play, now 6-12.  Also, the Dodgers are now 5-4 in interleague play.

  58. Mariners just failed on a sacrifice bunt attempt — now one out and runners on 1st and 2nd.  Bottom of the 9th.  Seattle-S.F. tied 1-1

  59. Anonymous

    Dodgers are again 17 games over .500, going for 18 on Tuesday!

  60. Anonymous

    Justin Smoaks one!

  61. Mariners beat Giants, 2-1.  We are now 5 games up.

  62. Anonymous

    Seattle wins! Dodgers are five games up now! :)

    • Anonymous

      Because the Dodgers whose fathers weren’t major leaguers are less worthy?

      • Anonymous

        No, because I don’t know the names of the fathers of any of the other Dodger players.  :)

  63. KT

    Gnats lose

  64. Line drive to left, Kawasaki coming home, Cabrera’s throw home hits Kawasaki, he scores. Ms win 2-1.

    • Anonymous

      Kawasaki looked like he was going to stop at third and then decided to go home. 

  65. Anonymous

    Justin Smoak beats the Gnats with a walkoff single. On a Sunday, all is right with the world.

  66. Anonymous

    Double like

  67. Anonymous

    Too bad Capuano pitched well without getting the win.  But Belisario deserved it too!

    • Anonymous

       Belisario deserves comeback of the year.

  68. Anonymous

    They got it right this time, a win before the off day lol

  69. Anonymous

    Wow. Obviously it got too tense for me to watch in the ninth( I must admit I am a chicken). But the Dodgers won, and that was probably Just, because they were robbed on a couple of calls. But one obvious point is that Capuana pitched an amazing game—8 innings, what something like 12 K’s–so the Dodgers earned this. So he missed the win; that stat is less than worthless.

  70. Anonymous

    In Early June, it was reported, by a source that I cannot remember, my best guess is Dylan Hernandez but just a guess, that Hairston had informed Mattingly that he was not comfortable playing third. Hairston has not played third since May 30, a game in which he came in in the 9th; he last started at third on May 29. How many times do I have to post this to stop regulars here from suggesting Hairston play third? I apologize that I cannot prove my claim as I assumed if I read it then many other would have read it even before I did. 

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