The Battle for Fourth Place

The current National League West Fourth-Place standings

Team	L	W	GB	Last 20 (L-W)
Padres	75	69	-	5-15
D’backs	72	71	2 ½	11-9
Dodgers	70	74	5	13-7
Cardinals at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.
Shane Victorino, LF
Andre Ethier, RF
Matt Kemp, CF
Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
Hanley Ramirez, SS
Luis Cruz, 3B
Nick Punto, 2B
A.J. Ellis, C
Chris Capuano, P

As you can see, the Padres have gone into a winning slump, allowing the Dodgers to make up eight games in a hurry and get back into the race.

The Dodgers will have a big chance to catch up to San Diego in the loss column with a three-game series September 25-27 in San Diego. But first, the Padres must avoid not having trouble with Arizona from September 18-20.

Los Angeles holds a tiebreaker advantage over San Diego, nine losses to six.

  • Anonymous

    This is getting serious. 

  • Anonymous

    I think we need a “cynicism” tag on this one.

    • Anonymous

       Does not cynicism fall under Rule No. 7?

      • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

         The rules apply to commenters.

        Also, what I wrote above isn’t sarcastic.  It’s all objectively true.

        I’d say this post is more trying to lighten things up than it is cynical.

        • Anonymous

          We need to form a Cynicism Commission.

        • Anonymous

           I am still allowed to be facetious, though?

  • Anonymous

    The Dodgers can get this done - only 5 back of the Padres with plenty of games to go, especially the way the Pads have been playing! 

  • http://twitter.com/RobertTiffin Robert Tiffin

    About a month ago, my Dad mailed me four free Loge tickets to last night’s game he had been given but wasn’t able to use.  We would have made it just in time except that traffic on SW was backed up almost to the on ramp.  (If it had been just the brother and I, we wouldn’t have been anywhere near the park, of course). 

    We broke out the Chipotle right there in the car and took our time eating it while Vin called the game.  That was easily the best part of the evening.

    After the game, I couldn’t figure out whether I was more frustrated at the Dodgers for another listless offensive performance or the ~10,000 extra people that just came for the fleece blankets (which were long gone by the time we got into the gate, much to my sister-in-law’s disappointment).

    Beckett’s 9-3 ground out was definitely the highlight for us, though.  I think I got my brother with that a couple of times on our old Super Nintendo back in the mid ’90s.

    And no, we did not pony up for Cool-A-Coos.  They just make me thirsty.

    • Anonymous

      Someone needs to tell Stan to go back to ‘all fans in attendence’ for giveaways. I always thought other teams were lame for limiting them, now we are lame too.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah I missed out on the free blanket :(
        At least to all kids in attendance.

  • Anonymous

    My biggest concern now is if the Rockies games will be loser’s dividend games.

  • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

    For a minute there I thought you meant that we had WON 13 against 7 losses and I was wondering why I was feeling so down… Then I paid attention.

  • Anonymous

    It’s been so depressing lately, I haven’t even been reading DT nearly as often.

  • Anonymous

    Victorino leads off today. Punto in place of Ellis at second base.

    That’ll show ‘em!

    • Anonymous

      While Cruz has been the best hitter for a month.

    • Anonymous

       Not sure how Punto sparks an offense more than Dee.

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    Tonight’s lineup:

    Victorino LF
    Ethier RF
    Kemp CF
    Gonzalez 1B
    Ramirez SS
    Cruz 3B
    Punto 2B
    Ellis C
    Capuano P

  • Anonymous

    Another thing I’ve learned recently. People in St. Louis hold Nick Punto in extremely high esteem.

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    CHICAGO (AP) — The Pittsburgh Pirates lost their seventh straight game Friday and kept fading in the NL wild-card race as
    Starlin Castro hit a three-run homer that sent the Chicago Cubs to a 7-4 win.

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    “On Aug. 8, the Pirates were 63-47, but have gone 9-24 since. They are now just a game over .500 for the first time since June
    15 when they were 32-31. Pittsburgh hasn’t finished with a winning record since 1992.”

  • http://twitter.com/plaza234 plaza23

    Nick Punto playing…and Victorino leading off…ugh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Hitchcock/1676059435 Jim Hitchcock

    A Town Without Pity…

  • Anonymous

    KCET’s website with a good essay and accompanying photos on the history of the Chavez Ravine area, nearly all of it pre-Dodger Stadium.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for that link, Bob.  Fascinating.  I knew some of the story, but not all of this (and I’m sure there’s still more).

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    The CarTalk guys’ reaction to “Bernoulli” & “lift” might be the single-greatest moment in the show’s history. bit.ly/PC9hKE

    This short clip cuts off too soon, but it gives you a taste.

  • Anonymous

    Since THE TRADE

    JLoney;  .268/.281/.357  for a 68 OPS+
    AGonzales:  .233/.296/.370 for an 83 OPS+

    Yikes.

  • Anonymous

    The Astros are interviewing Larry Bowa. Oh please. Oh please. Oh please. Oh please. Oh please.

    • Anonymous

      Well, even if it happens, he’ll be in the other league.

    • Anonymous

       What have you got against the Astros?

      • Anonymous

        Larry Bowa may have been the worst coach the Dodgers had ever employed. He motivated players to play worse.

        • Anonymous

          So I repeat, why do you hate the Astros?  They’re so cute and harmless.  And their ballpark features a train!

          • Anonymous

            I want Larry Bowa to fail again. 

          • Anonymous

            And you don’t care who gets hurt in the process?  That’s cold, btimmer.  Cold.

            Or maybe you’re still holding a grudge against Mike Scott? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Pruett/1707390003 Terry Pruett

      The Astros might be a good fit for Bowa: a roster full of guys who hit even worse than he did.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Pruett/1707390003 Terry Pruett

    This season, like an old soldier, isn’t dying…it’s just fading away. In retrospect, the Dodgers received their mortal blow (if it indeed it turns out to be a mortal blow), the millisecond Matt Kemp’s hammy seized on him crossing 1st base that day. I truly believe he was going to have a historic season, and carry the Dodgers with him.

    Now, after the hamstring, and with the shoulder, his bat speed is noticeably slower. He needs the off season…as do we. However, I retain a small measure of hope. It is baseball after all. And, as Casey Stengel once said: “In baseball, you don’t know nothin’.”

  • Anonymous

    Are these standings from the Bizarro baseball league?

  • http://www.facebook.com/ron.conner.7549 Ron Conner

    fuck the dodgers

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, I started ignoring baseball to protect my feelings from the Dodgers doing so poorly as they are being beatten so soundly by the Giants and others.But I have been able to get through this and see that we are doing something rather rare and incredible!.I’m hoping it can turn right around. But it may never really register statistically how bad the Dodgers have done as they have spent 1/4 Billion and given up amazing pitching prospects which may mitigate this streak. It is very interesting and I truly believe we are storing good luck for something.(wish I knew what and when it is.)

  • Anonymous

    Kershaw is now questionable for Sunday’s start because of the same hip issue he had before.

    So, it’s time for people to question Don Mattingly’s manhood again I guess. 

  • Anonymous
  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Nice play Cappy!!

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    that ball kept carrying

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Cappy playing his position well

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    tried no posting yesterday
     
    today going for the encouragement posting

    I’ll try anything to break this streak

  • Anonymous

    The theme song for this series so far:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9MpqbOaXdo

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Come on Guys let’s get those two back

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Good start Gonzo

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Come on Hanley bring him home

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    I think the pitchers have all decided “what the hey, I’ll give up a run or two in the first couple of innings just to eliminate any suspense.”

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Way to get him over Hanley
     
    Nice RBI Luis

    • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

       Yes, ground balls to advance runners are SO exciting. ;)

      This team couldn’t get three hits in a row if it meant its house would stay unburnt in a forest fire.

      • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

        We don’t need anymore negativity or sarcasm

        The team needs all the positive vibes it can get

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Head 1st dives slow you down Nick

    Should only be used to avoid a tag

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Bad Vibes equal bad results

    • Anonymous

      Like two-out errors that lead to two-run homers?

      • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

        yep

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    way to get on Shane
     
    Come on Dre get on

  • Anonymous

    Many laughs. I don’t even think this is something new in baseball!!!

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    DRE!!!!

  • Jibin Park

    ETHIER BOMB! LET’S GET EXCITED!

    • Anonymous

      Squewethieeeer!

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Alright Matty your turn

  • Anonymous

    Ethier creams one. LOL. what does this mean??? ha  Hahaha?

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Alright Gonzo start it off

    • Anonymous

      You are definitely a soldier and a better fan than me.  Much respect.

      • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

        trying anything to turn around this season
         
        Losing makes me sick

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Way to get out of it Matt

  • Anonymous

    The Phillies won, but the Brewers lost. They are both rooting for the Dodgers here. I suppose the Pirates are too, but the Bucs are a lost cause.

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Come on Bobby you’re due

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    no tag (actually tag on the hip after hand hit bag)
     
    bad call

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Punto has so few talents. He may have been safe! But it is so stupid to give up the only time he has a position.

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Let’s go Shane

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Wow…that looked a little unorthodox but it worked

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Ok Let’s get some runs
     
    Start it off Dre

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Nice hit dre
     
    Come on matty relax…you can do it

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    come on Gonzo…bring dre around

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Come on Luis

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    LUIS!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=713935344 Jason Ungar

    SO YOU’RE TELLING ME THERE IS A CHANCE

  • Anonymous

    Winnipeg Goldeyes beat the Wichita Wingnuts tonight 8-3 to win the American Association championship (Independent baseball league). This is the first championship for any professional sports team in Winnipeg since the Goldeyes won the Northern League championship in 1994.
    Oh we will be partying at Portage and Main tonight!

    And – nice hit Cruz!

    • Anonymous

      On the other hand, the local Canadian Football team – the Winnipeg Blue Bombers – lost 44-3 tonight. Two weeks ago they lost 52-0. Perhaps not going to be their year.

      And now back to our regularly scheduled Dodgers comments…

      • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

        I used to like the edmonton Eskimos back in the late 70′s  because a friend from school played for them…used to watch a lot of CFL back then

      • Anonymous

        Are you happy to have the Jets again?

        • Anonymous

          I think it is funny that we have waited 15 years to get them back, and then one season after they return there is an impending lock-out. I’m trying to imagine how the mood would have been in Winnipeg if a lock-out had happened last year!

          • Anonymous

            Did they get to keep the Jets legacy stats and stuff like the “new” Cleveland Browns, or did that all go to Phoenix?

          • Anonymous

            It all went to Phoenix. Instead of having records from Dale Howerchuk and Teemu Selanne, etc. we get a bunch of Thrasher stats and history.

          • Anonymous

            Well, Thrasher is a great Neil Young song, and his parents were married in Winnipeg, so it all connects in the end.

          • Anonymous

            You sir, are most knowledgeable. 

          • Anonymous

            I admittedly used wikipedia for the parents married in Winnipeg part.

    • Anonymous

       When I hear wingnuts and Wichita, it’s all I can do to avoid a Rule 5 violation.

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Time to add on boys…we want production from the whole lineup

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Start it off Elian

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Good eye Elian
     
    Come on Shane get on

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Excellent executed Hit & Run…Nice Shane
     
    Come on Dre

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Take second Shane (double steal)

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Come on Matty

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=713935344 Jason Ungar

      He needs a few days off. I mean he may need even more than that but gosh is he terrible now. May as well try Herrera

      • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

        something that is for sure

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    I think Donnie needs to drop matty to the 6th hole to take the pressure off…go with the hot bat instead

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Nice Gonzo!!

    • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

      good hustle Shane

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Come on Hanley bring him home

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    that fan needed to get in the way

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Good win
     
    time to make two tomorrow

  • http://underdog.typepad.com/ underdog

    I don’t understand… what… just happened? [shifts into Huell Howser impersonation} They won? They scored runs and that lead to one of these wins I keep hearing about? Interesting.  And you’re telling me if they score this many runs the odds are that they’ll win?  Very cool. I’m always learning more about California’s Gold. 

    • Anonymous

      Spot on, minus the ellipsis before… California’s Gold.

  • http://underdog.typepad.com/ underdog

    Also, Cruz continues to be one of the best stories of this season–regardless of how anything else turns out at the end. And he continues to have great at bats, it’s no fluke in the way that Herrera’s early season run was basically a fluke. It’s fun to watch. 

    • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

      I think Luis and Matty should switch spots in the order unless matty is hurt then he should sit

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    Night all

    • Anonymous

      Good job!

  • Anonymous

    Sooo, did they get it all out of their system?

    • Anonymous

      We’ll find out tonight.

  • Anonymous

    I love the way Vinny has been hailing Molina.

    • Anonymous

       Yadier’s a legit MVP candidate.

  • Anonymous

    I was out and gone, and they pulled me back in! Damn those Ds. Now I have to watch and care about baseball again! 

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    NPUT