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Suspensions finally handed out for Tuesday’s brawls

Major League Baseball handed out suspensions to Dodgers and Diamondbacks personnel for Tuesday’s brawls.

For the Dodgers:

  • J.P. Howell and Skip Schumaker were suspended for two games each.
  • Ronald Belisario was suspended for one game
  • Don Mattingly was suspended one game (to be served tonight)
  • Mark McGwire was suspended two games (tonight and tomorrow)
  • Yasiel Puig and Zack Greinke were fined an undisclosed amount.

For the Diamondbacks

  • Ian Kennedy was suspended 10 games.
  • Eric Hinske was suspended 5 games.
  • Kirk Gibson was suspended 1 game (to be served tonight)
  • Miguel Montero and Gerardo Parra were fined.

Also, because multiple players on the disabled list left the bench to join the fight, all of those players will receive some discipline and neither team will be allowed to have any players on the disabled list sit on the bench during their weekend series.

All players can appeal their suspensions. Coaches and managers cannot.

Update: Ken Rosenthal has more explanation about the suspensions.

 

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42 Comments

  1. I know I’m a bit biased but I feel like these punishments were fair. Glad Puig is around this weekend. Sorry trey Hillman will manage a game. ;)

  2. Anonymous

    Seems about right. Glad no Dodgers were suspended for very long. I don’t recall what Eric Hinske did to deserve five games. Or a spot on the roster.

  3. Anonymous

    Interesting. This kind of settles who was wrong and who was less wrong. Surprised Puig wasn’t suspended, really, and I don’t know why Hinske did beyond absorbing a Puig karate chop to the back of the head. But glad to see the 10 games for Kennedy. Or, 2 starts.

    • Anonymous

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Hinske’s suspension is reduced on appeal. Schumaker didn’t look he was nearly as aggressive as Belisario or Howell. But I wonder if events in the first set-to were also taken into account.

      Hinske might have been singled out because he’s so big.

      • Anonymous

        Guilt or innocence have nothing to do with it. How is it the French put it, “pour encourager les autres”?

    • Anonymous

      How could Puig give him a karate chop without completely chopping off his head? This is Hall of Famer Puig we’re talking about here…

      • Anonymous

        Because, well, there is no thicker neck in Major League Baseball than that of Eric Hinske.

  4. Anonymous

    From Brandon McCarthy on Twitter: “Hinske’s had the soup and ended up paying for someone else’s surf & turf”

  5. Anonymous

    I think they got this one right, except perhaps for Hinske. Maybe he did something we couldn’t see?

    • Anonymous

      From Rosenthal:

      “According to a source, however, Hinske hit Puig first.

      The video, when slowed down, shows Puig’s head snapping back at least
      two or three times, as if he was hit by a punch, the source said.

      Puig was ejected for being an “instigator” in the brawl, the umpires
      said. But he did not make contact with Hinske, his punch getting blocked
      by another Dodger after his arm started forward, the source said.”

  6. Anonymous

    This post has been slightly updated.

  7. Anonymous

    “The last pitcher suspended for 10 games was the Diamondbacks’ Miguel Batista in 2003. Batista earned his discipline by throwing a baseball at the Cardinals’ Tino Martinez as Martinez charged the mound.”

    • Anonymous

      Ken Rosenthal issues a correction on Twitter. The last 10-game suspension was in 2005 to Runelvys Hernandez of the Royals.

  8. Anonymous

    I am willing to testify that Belli deserves at least a 10 day suspension.

    • Anonymous

      Because of his pitching?

    • Anonymous

      Well, of course for a starting pitcher (Kennedy) 10 games really only means 2 games. So it’s not that draconian. 10 games for a reliever would be a bigger deal.

  9. Anonymous

    I would like to state here that I am grateful that the commenters here have been level-headed about all the Fight Club stuff. I know Jon would appreciate it he were here. There are plenty of other places to go if you wish to vent more strongly about the stylings of Ian Kennedy.

    • Anonymous

      I am most surprised by the vitriol directed at Greinke. The man got his collar bone broken in a bruising tackle, yet commenters from other teams keep posting that he somehow “caused” both brawls.

    • Anonymous

      Been there, can’t stomach their stew…

  10. Wow, Ramon Hernandez has been DFA’d. Maybe they’re happy with Wallach being the third catcher as I see his hit a few home runs recently.

    • Anonymous

      I think they are happy with Fed and had to get rid of Ramon, who probably didn’t agree with being 3rd string in the minors..

    • Anonymous

      Did someone get called up or activated from the DL? As bad as Hernandez was with the bat, I thought he was much worse with the glove. That dropped throw the other night must have been the final straw. Duhh, forget the question, this could only mean AJ is back.

    • Anonymous

      He might figure he has a better shot somewhere else getting back into the Show,even if requires sitting in AAA for a while. Fed seems pretty solid as the 2nd, if only for the defense he brings.

    • Anonymous

      I’d lament having traded Harangutan for Ramon, but there just wasn’t anything else we could do with Harang, was there?

      • Anonymous

        The DL. I’m sure he’d have pitched as well as McGill…

  11. Joe Nunya

    I think MLB handed things well, for a change. It would be easy to overreact but they did not. We’ll done it’s done it’s over, play ball.

    As an OT question. Has Jon setup mobile access for ST? if not what are others using (android) for mobile viewing here? Just using a browser is a bit tedious but if that’s what there is then that’s what I’ll use.

  12. Anonymous

    Bob – are fines scaled to salaries? Puig should be OK, but one can imagine the blow to a minimum wager if fines are designed to pinch the average Big League salary.

    • Anonymous

      The fines aren’t on a sliding scale I believe, but MLB does not release the amounts.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve always advocated scaling traffic fines. There are people out there to whom a $100 or even $500 fine means little but unfortunately there are also poor working men to whom $100 is their family’s groceries for a week or $500 a month’s rent. There must be a better way.

  13. Anonymous

    Does anybody else find it a bit ironic that baseball can spend hours poring over video from a fight in order to issue suspensions, but can’t even look at the tape when an umpire obviously gets a call wrong. You didn’t need to look at any video to know that Kennedy was entirely responsible for this idiocy. Baseball got that part right, but all the other fines and suspensions seem like guesswork. Or about as good as a CB Bucknor strike 3 call.

    Or maybe that’s part of the new streamlined 7th-inning stretch: For it’s one, two strikes your out at the new ballgame.

    • Anonymous

      Or in Puig’s case the other night with Clint Fagan behind the plate, 4 strikes.

  14. Anonymous

    What I find amazing is the Puig has already appeared in as many games as Hanley this season.

  15. Anonymous

    BTW here is the seating plan/ field setup for the SCG game in Sydney next year.
    Prices range from $499 to $69 a ticket for the game

    http://premier.ticketek.com.au/dbimages/sfx105775.gif

  16. Anonymous

    NPUT

  17. Anonymous

    Kennedy deserved to be suspended for ten starts rather than ten games.

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