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June 29 game chat

Phillies at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.

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303 Comments

  1. Anonymous

    Vin lamenting Utley.

    • Anonymous

      I am lamenting Mattingly (who got the job).

  2. KT

    Time to get that one back and more

  3. Anonymous

    Hello, Cliff Lee.

  4. KT

    Let’s go Gonzo

  5. KT

    good eye Gonzo

    Come on Hanley

  6. KT

    Hanley!!!!

  7. Anonymous

    Hello, hello, hello!

  8. KT

    come on Matty your turn

  9. KT

    Nice inning…way to win it

  10. Anonymous

    That HR call from Vin gave me chills. She is gone!

  11. Anonymous

    Lee better this season against RHH than LHH; last year he gave up lots of HRs to RHH but his BAA and OBP better against RHH than against LHH but there were so many HRs that nothing else really matters; 2 years ago he crushed LHH

  12. KT

    Dodgers PR ‏@DodgersPR 4m

    Ramirez is batting .487 (18-for-37) with five home runs and 14 RBI during his 11 game hitting streak

    • Anonymous

      In about 25 PA less than Puig, he is closing in on him with 6 dingers and OPS.

      • KT

        He’s been hotter than Puig…line drives everywhere…it was just that he was hitting them at people in the beginning

  13. Jack Dawkins

    If it wasnt for Puig mania, Hanley would be the big story of the last 2 weeks.

  14. KT

    much better inning…put up another crooked number

  15. Jack Dawkins

    Hanley’s HR landed where the Pre and post game show hosts sit in Center field. Been a long time since ive seen one land that far.

    • KT

      then bounced off the lower cameras/lights and then nothing but net as the commercial went

  16. KT

    Can we just walk him from now on

  17. Anonymous

    It’s always fun watching CB Bucknor try to figure out the strike zone. AGon has had a few gifts tonight…. Dale Scott just evened things out however.

  18. Anonymous

    …so would you rather have Juan Pierre in your lineup, or a Juan Pierre your GM thinks still has upside? #benrevere

  19. Jack Dawkins

    They are saying 439′ for Hanley’s blast.

  20. Phillies now at 40 hits in 22 innings in Los Angeles.

  21. KT

    Hanley!!

  22. KT

    Come on Matty

  23. KT

    Good eye Matty

    Come on SVS
    Love his walk up song

  24. KT

    Good eye SVS

    Come on AJ

  25. Anonymous

    that’s not what we wanted

  26. Anonymous

    Well, at least the bases aren’t loaded anymore.

  27. KT

    now that we don’t have bases loaded time to score

  28. Anonymous

    Let’s go Uribear.

  29. Anonymous

    I thought they might have IBB him

  30. Anonymous

    Well, that was disappointing. At least got his pitch count up.

  31. Anonymous

    No unusual for Lee to reach 115 pitches in a start.

  32. Anonymous

    Cliff Lee: June 27, 2002: Traded by the Montreal Expos with Brandon Phillips, Grady Sizemore and Lee Stevens to the Cleveland Indians for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew.

    .
    keep making trades like that and you might have to move to a new city

  33. KT

    he stepped on the ball and it went in the stands

  34. Anonymous

    I don’t mind that ruling, but it sure seems like they should award him third in that.

    • KT

      those were my thoughts also…he had the double and should have been awarded the extra base

      • Anonymous

        If he was on his way to second and somebody threw it into the dugout he would get third. How is this any different?

      • Anonymous

        agree; but might be some provision in the rule book that makes it a double

        • Anonymous

          Normally I would try to figure out why I’m wrong, but ever since I witnessed a crew allow back to back pitching changes, totally oblivious to that rule, I don’t assume anything.

          • KT

            no you were right to assume he should have been awarded third

          • Anonymous

            I believe in the NHL the ref has to decide if it was intentional when the puck goes into the stands; please correct me if I’m wrong

          • KT

            I think so also

  35. Anonymous

    C’mon, Matt!

  36. Anonymous

    Phillies announcers pronounce their pitching coach Du’-bee, Vin, Du-Bee’
    I have always read that Vin makes sure he pronounces names correctly yet it seems he must be wrong on this one.

  37. Anonymous

    Seems like the pre-streak offense has returned.
    Too bad Hanley and Puig can’t be cloned!

  38. Anonymous

    Slow, but nimble.

  39. Anonymous

    Cliff Lee has turned out to be better vs. right-handed batters than left . . . how will Donnie ever know if the same is true with Paco?
    Still, I hope his strategy works out.

  40. Anonymous

    This sure would stack up nicely for Kenley in the 9th if Belli can get these two quick outs…

  41. KT

    Paco isn’t a Loogy…why take him out Donnie

  42. KT

    turn two

  43. Anonymous

    C’mon, old Belli . . . be the new Belli of late!

  44. Anonymous

    Bullpen strikes again.

  45. KT

    now turn two

  46. Anonymous

    Wish he’d left Paco in. He always has him on the shortest of leashes.

    • Anonymous

      I could understand pulling him for a righty with someone on base, but there was no out and the bases empty.

  47. Anonymous

    Whew!

  48. KT

    There we go!!!!

  49. Anonymous

    Yes!! Thank you Jeffery Loria!

  50. KT

    time to get some insurance

  51. KT

    Jared Massey ‏@Dodger_Diamond 2m

    RHH vs Paco: .163 BA, .507 OPS
    RHH vs Beli: .309 BA, .816 OPS

    • Anonymous

      Wow.

      • Anonymous

        not only that but Delmon Young hitting RHP slightly better than LHP ad was 1 for 1 against Belisario.
        However, team will not win without Belisario pitching well so he has to be used but maybe not in this situation.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for backing up my gut feeling with stats.

    • Anonymous

      Alan Roth, the late Dodgers statistician, had numbers like those at his fingertips.

  52. Anonymous

    I literally couldn’t watch!

    • KT

      hanley made a good stop and backhanded flip from the ground

  53. Anonymous

    rule 6.09(g) says: Any bounding fair ball is deflected by the fielder into the stands,
    or over or under a fence on fair or foul territory, in which case the
    batter and all runners shall be entitled to advance two bases
    .
    If you look at the whole of rule 6 09, I think you will agree this does not mean 2 bases from where the batter is but 2 bases from where the batter and the other possible players started. I am not 100% sure but pretty sure esp. after what we saw in the game.

    • Anonymous

      Hey, thanks for that.

    • Anonymous

      Huh… in that case anytime a Revere-ish speedy guy hits one down the line, just have your OFer kick it into the stands to stop a triple.

      • Anonymous

        not that easy to kick a ball esp. if moving into the stands; you risk turning a triple into an inside the park HR

  54. Anonymous

    So, I guess you could say that it all worked out, in that Kenley is facing the top of the order.

  55. KT

    need a k here or a grounder to SS

  56. Anonymous

    Didn’t Kenley learn about sleeping on the mound last year?

    • Anonymous

      But still , offense and defense have failed in this game.

    • KT

      kenley was behind HP…that was gonzo that was over thrown

      • Anonymous

        I’m at the mercy of Steiner’s descriptions.

  57. Jack Dawkins

    Keystone Kops time.

  58. Anonymous

    Two outfield errors in the same inning, and nearly a bizarre inside-the-park homer.

    • Anonymous

      I thought the error should have been on AJ.
      no error on triple as yet

      • KT

        throw way up the line

      • Anonymous

        I guess the thinking is if the throw had not been so far up the line, the runner on 3rd would have stayed put.

        • Anonymous

          The runner would have stayed put if AJ had caught it.

      • Anonymous

        Dre closed his mitt like he thought he had it, but seemed uncertain of the wall, which he would be a bit unfamiliar with at this point. Hard to call it an error.

  59. Anonymous

    That’s one unhappy outfield.

  60. Jack Dawkins

    Is Shumaker available to pitch the 10th?

  61. KT

    Time for a walk off

  62. Anonymous

    This reliever, De Fratus, not one of their best ones.

    • Anonymous

      don’t want to jinx the Dodgers but Phillies have only one good reliever

  63. Anonymous

    He is just playing T-ball at this point.

  64. Anonymous

    Kemp is due.

  65. KT

    He throws hard…Hanley hits it hard

  66. Anonymous

    Why wouldn’t AJ talk to Kenley? Repeatedly. Odd dynamic there

  67. Anonymous

    Wow. Kemp 0-3 with 3 Ks and a 2 out E in the 9th to allow the tying run to score. Not pretty.

    • Anonymous

      Although if you ask me, that was AJ’s error.

      • Anonymous

        AJ could’ve helped him, but that throw was 20 feet offline.

        • Anonymous

          But the run only scored because AJ misplayed it.

          • Anonymous

            Same thing as a bad throw to first – the first basemen can dig it and help the guy out, but if he can’t it’s all on the throw. It isn’t AJ’s fault he had to run twenty feet to his right, try to slide block it and corral the ball. E on Kemp.

          • Anonymous

            AJ there in plenty of time, all he had to do was block it then pick it up. It was an easy play. Run scored because of AJ not Kemp

          • KT

            he would have scored on the triple anyway and we won so mute point…here we come Gnats

          • Anonymous

            Agree to disagree. I saw it differently.

          • Anonymous

            don’t mean to be rude but if you watch it on gameday I think you will change your mind.
            As Hendley says above nice we are arguing about a play that didn’t effect the outcome.

          • Anonymous

            Fair enough. Potato, potato.

  68. Anonymous

    inconsistent strike zone tonight, but Kemp doesn’t look good tonight.

  69. Anonymous

    Almost need Skippy for CF.

  70. Anonymous

    With our bullpen, truly don’t want this to go into extra innings.

  71. Anonymous

    Time for Ethier to turn back the clock a few years.

  72. KT

    just a single AJ

  73. KT

    BALL GAME!!!

  74. Anonymous

    Oh yeah!!

  75. Anonymous

    so that Hanley fellow seems to be quite the ballplayer

    • Anonymous

      Hey das411.

      • Anonymous

        hey Bob, who knows if either of these teams will have the firepower to get past those Pirates
        ^sentence never before said anywhere ever

  76. Anonymous

    with less than half their hits again!

  77. KT

    5 back people!!!!

  78. Anonymous

    This is the kind of game we were losing earlier this year. We’ve now won 7 of 8 and are only 5 games out of first and 1 behind the Giants.

    • Anonymous

      We lost every which way, usually with little drama.

  79. Jack Dawkins

    Looks like Hanley ran through the stop sign, and as he did, Wallach waved him in.

    • KT

      rewound…Wallach waving all the way

    • Anonymous

      He threw up the stop sign way too late, and it was the stop sign of a man who knew he was throwing up the stop sign way too late.

  80. Anonymous

    Whoosh! I can breathe again!

  81. Anonymous

    Redemption for AJ . . . and the team as a whole! Nice comeback after the potentially crushing top of the 9th!
    Puig + Hanley = a winning team.

  82. Anonymous

    Lose by 15 last night, win by 1 tonight . . . with a minimal offensive output.

    They even out.

    But in the scheme of things, I think this means far more . . . last night was a done-deal quickly, this was another nailbiter — and the Blue prevailed!

  83. Anonymous

    June BA up to right now
    SVS 161
    AJ Ellis 176
    Punto 186
    M. Ellis 211
    Kemp 214
    Fedex 220
    Uribe 234
    Adrian 248
    another 3 between 250 and 275
    highest 2 over 380

  84. KT

    Wow earlier in the year we would have found a way to lose this one…5 games back and gaining…the rest of the NL West are hearing our footsteps…Watch out

  85. Anonymous

    Its fun to be arguing over something immaterial. Its been a while.

  86. Whew. I was pretty sure that was a gone game after the top of the 9th. Two outfield errors! And why wasn’t Jansen backing up the plate on Matt’s throw home?

  87. KT

    Night all…go for the series win tomorrow and hopefully a tie for 4th place

  88. Anonymous

    Zach Lee 2H, 2BB, 0R, 7IP, 6K

  89. Anonymous

    Dominguez last 7 appearances at AAA
    Total IP 6 2/3, 0 H, 0 R, 10 K, 3 BB

  90. Anonymous

    Also sad to see Aussie Pete back to AAA

  91. KT

    Forgot to look at Soho’s pictures from Thursdays game…Found a picture with me and my daughter in it. we are right over his left shoulder:

    http://imgur.com/b7CEzZb

  92. foul tip

    He obviously would cost more, but better the team focus on getting one C. Lee than Nolasco. Another top-of-the-rotation arm could be enough to put the team over the top, if this level of winning continues.

    Beyond being way better, he has that postseason experience Ned so values.

    Beyond prospect cost, Lee’s signed for a bunch of $$$. But what’s $$$ for the Guggenheimers?

    • Anonymous

      Don’t believe that the fillies are ready to throw in the towel at this point and deal C. Lee, which would also imply unloading Rollins, Howard and Utley. But worth revisiting in about a month.

  93. Anonymous

    last season RHP Kendrick did significantly better vs RHP was 2010.
    each of last 3 seasons it is slightly better to use RHH against him. otoh both Schmaker and Ethier have hit him well

  94. Anonymous

    Guerrier has been designated for assignment. Withrow is back up.

    • foul tip

      Amazing. Simply amazing. Ned alone probably didn’t make this call.

      • Anonymous

        Amazing or overdue? With the kind of money that Dodgers are playing with, talent drives roster spots, not contracts.

        • foul tip

          Both. He wasn’t worth his contract. But in the past contracts at times seem to have gotten in the way of good roster management. If no longer so, great.

    • Anonymous

      Odd. Guerrier has not been bad, blowout excluded. Is this another waivers situation, a la Cruz?

  95. KT

    Dodgers Lineup:
    Schumaker 2B
    Puig RF
    Gonzalez 1B
    Ramirez SS
    Ethier LF
    Kemp CF
    AJ Ellis C
    Hairston 3B
    Fife P

    • john galt

      Would rather see Punto instead of Schumaker. (Is it ‘ker’ or ‘cher’?) He really can’t play second base adequately.

      • Anonymous

        you are correct on the fielding point but he has a 1.326 OPS against Kendrick in 21 PA

    • Anonymous

      I’m not sure if is best that Gonzalez gets written in at 3 every game.
      AJ is 174/259/246 since May 14; he should bat 8th

      • Anonymous

        That’s a sustained period of weak offense. Maybe Gonzalez needs a Donnie day of rest as has been applied recently to Kemp and Ramirez.

        • foul tip

          My thoughts exactly. However long SVS may be around, he’s an option to give AGon some rest. Bet some would help.

        • Anonymous

          the stats are for A.J. Ellis; I was making 2 separate comments. Sorry for the confusion

  96. Anonymous

    Arizona losing to Atlanta, 4-1, after 3.
    San Diego losing in Miami, 2-0, in the bottom of the 6th.
    San Francisco at Colorado starts at the same time as our game does.

  97. Anonymous

    Padres lose 6-2 in Miami on a game-ending grand slam by Jeff Mathis.

  98. Anonymous

    Miami just beat San Diego, 6-2, on a walkoff grand slam by Jeff Mathis with one out in the 9th.

  99. KT

    ITFDBB

  100. KT

    Yes….K

  101. KT

    Strand the leadoff Double…I like it

  102. Anonymous

    As much as it pains me, I better get ready for work. The worst thing is that I am helping at a school camp for the day today, so I won’t know the result until much later !?!

  103. KT

    At least we didn’t strand a leadoff double

  104. KT

    Lot of people at the new section where there are tables in the shade…don’t blame them

    AJ with the gun!!

  105. Anonymous

    Vin didn’t cast any more light on the AJ/Kenley thing last night, other than to say that it is unusual

    • KT

      probably didn’t know

    • Onlyatriple

      On the post game show on the radio, Ellis was asked about this. He said that he accidentally gave Jansen extra signs, as he would do if there was a runner on second. Jansen was confused, asked to talk with Ellis, who shook him off when he (Ellis) realized what he had done.

    • Anonymous

      Strange enough that I’ve never seen that, but if Vin’s never seen that, then wow.

  106. KT

    Nice Barney!!

  107. Anonymous

    Vin, with a marginally interesting story about a servicemember proposing to his girlfriend during a Braves telecast, is really reminding me of my grandmother.

  108. foul tip

    Getting picked off kinda does sound like something Barney would do in Mayberry.

  109. KT

    Bill Plunkett ‏@billplunkettocr 2m

    #Dodgers Carl Crawford leading off and DHing for Rancho Cucamonga today. LHP Ted Lilly starting pitcher vs Lancaster JetHawks #rehabbing

  110. KT

    Vin said it’s 91 at DS

    Puig!

  111. Anonymous

    Amazing shot of Puig trying to reach back to the bag.

  112. KT

    HANLEY!!

  113. foul tip

    “In play, run(s)” My favorite sight on Gameday when the Dodgers are AB. ;-])

  114. Anonymous

    Looks like he jammed his leg to me. Knee can’t feel too good. Rollins is like a hawk out there trying to nab the errant runners.

  115. Anonymous

    OK Bison!

  116. KT

    Matty!!

  117. Anonymous

    Another rabbit on the loose.

  118. KT

    JH Jr.!

  119. Anonymous

    Attack of the Killer Ds!

  120. KT

    Great Inning!!

  121. KT

    Love it!!

  122. foul tip

    Dodger pitcher today’s name is Barney Nolasco, right? ;-])

    Barney ERA now sub-3. Enjoy it while it lasts, and let’s hope that’s a while.

    • Anonymous

      He looks better and better every start. I really hope he gets the chance to stay in the rotation until he pitches himself out of it.

      • KT

        I think Stephen has pitched well in almost every game…He gives us a chance to win

        • foul tip

          IIRC, in ST he outpitched a couple who made the rotation.

  123. Anonymous

    Pop fly triple!

  124. KT

    PUIG!!!

  125. KT

    Gonzo!!

  126. foul tip

    “Yasiel Puig triples on a popup to second baseman Chase Utley.”

    There’s something you don’t see on Gameday very often.

    • KT

      actually it fell right in front of Young and skipped by him…Utley ran it down and by that time Puig was on 3rd

      • foul tip

        So, Utley gets blame. KInda like a basketball ref seeing and calling the second foul after missing the first that prompted the second…

  127. Anonymous

    let me mention Johnny Leonard Roosevelt Martin
    (The Wild Horse Of The Osage) known as Pepper, born on February 29th

  128. Anonymous

    Odd thing is, that’s the second pitch at Kendrick’s head Fife has thrown.

  129. foul tip

    Gameday: “Kyle Kendrick hit by pitch.”

    Andy, in his most patient, softest voice: “No, Barney, that’s not how you’re supposed to “hit” the opposing pitcher.”

    • KT

      hit the back of his helmet…not the softest of blows

      • foul tip

        Just having G-day and not seeing it, I wondered about my comment. G-day says it was a changeup…

  130. KT

    Nice DP

  131. KT

    AJ! waking up with the bat again

  132. foul tip

    If DM gives Barney the hook just bc he’s gone 6, on only 83 pitches and cruising, up 4-0, it’ll be serious overmanaging/incompletence.

    Watch him closely, yeah. But see if dude can pitch a shutout. Pull him reluctantly, if necessary.

  133. KT

    Yasiel Puig’s 43 hits this month are tied with Steve Sax (Aug. 1982) for the most ever in a calendar month by a Los Angeles Dodger rookie

    Sax’s did it in 31 days, Puig 28

  134. KT

    Eric Stephen ‏@truebluela 8m

    Spoiler alert: Stephen Fife is winning TBLA pitcher of the month honors for June tomorrow

  135. KT

    Eric Stephen ‏@truebluela 12m

    Yasiel Puig needs to reach base 3 more times today to break Billy Grabarkewitz’s Dodgers rookie month record of .479 OBP (May 1970)

  136. KT

    Dodgers PR ‏@DodgersPR 16m

    Puig’s 43 hits are the second-most all-time behind Joe DiMaggio (48, 1936) for a player in the 1st month of their career

  137. Anonymous

    Dominguez warming in the pen. Would be nice to maintain the lead and see him today. Lets go Barney!

  138. KT

    turn two

  139. Anonymous

    Leaving him in for the two lefties, Donnie showing Fife some confidence.

  140. Anonymous

    GBA on Sundays only now?

  141. Anonymous

    Checking in – a work day for me. Looks like Fife is having another good one. So glad for him.

  142. Anonymous

    Good opportunity to bring in Dominguez for the 8th.

  143. KT

    new record

  144. Anonymous

    Hanley needs to have a word with Puig.

  145. KT

    Come on Dominguez…show your stuff

  146. Bringin’ the heat!

  147. KT

    no traffic on that 101…Stiener

  148. Jack Dawkins

    League less relevant than ever now.

  149. KT

    Good inning Jose

  150. Anonymous

    Chris Reed pitching interestingly after 5 for AA

  151. KT

    Jon Weisman ‏@jonweisman 7m

    “Sitting up here, you can only look at (Dominguez) and think of Pedro Martinez.” – Vin

  152. KT

    Eric Stephen ‏@truebluela 6m

    Jose Dominguez just tested positive for awesome. 1-2-3 in his MLB debut with a strikeout. Hit 101

  153. KT

    SVS….giving a chance Puig could get his cycle…Come on Mellis

  154. Anonymous

    Reed gave up single, walk, single, walk to start the 6th. Tying run at second base with new pitcher coming in.

  155. Anonymous

    In this game, this situation, they encourage the HR attempt, right? I would.

  156. Anonymous

    I was only able to tune in sporadically today, but what a game filled with nice implications . . . Fife impressive, offense impressive, Dominguezi mpressive.
    So what can I day — I’m impressed!

    • KT

      and SD, AZ, and probably CO lose…gain on everyone but SF

      • Anonymous

        THat’s all great, but my initial goal — my “waffle,” to use Jon’s vernacular from a few days ago — is reaching .500. That would mean the Dodgers have improved their own game, regardless of what anyone else is doing.
        Of course, I’m not going to throw back gaining in the standings as well, especially the distance they’ve traveled in 9 days!

        • Anonymous

          My waffle pick was 86 wins, which may actually be enought to win the West at this point!

  157. Anonymous

    How many times is he not going to hit for the cycle.

  158. Anonymous

    Um, wait. Is our bullpen, all of a sudden, a strength?

    • Anonymous

      We’re learning who in the bullpen is NOT!

  159. Only blemish on the day so far… let’s end this thing.

    • KT

      defensive indifference helped that one along

      • Anonymous

        I believe we’re on the same page with that, KT — why in the world allow it without even trying, especially with as hot as Ellis is? Or is the pitcher using a windup?

        • KT

          agon not holding the runners

          • Anonymous

            okay, that’s another strategic choice — cut down the chance of a double

  160. KT

    Ball Game!!!! only 4 games back!!!!…great home stand…now here’s to a great road trip!!!!

  161. foul tip

    Someone with only Gameday eyes–me–wonders why DM wouldn’t let Withrow work through it, try to finish, and build his confidence.

    Any sound reason, or just DM being DM?

    • KT

      DM being DM

      • Anonymous

        Ryan hitting 173 vs LHP; I’m OK bringing in a LHP there.

        • Anonymous

          Look how close the Giants made those games at the end. He had a chance to start the inning . . . get the win!

  162. KT

    I’m sure glad I didn’t give up on this team…although I never do

    • Anonymous

      hilarious

    • Anonymous

      I know what you mean. Earlier, I was saying, ‘Yes, they stink – but they’re my team.’
      I didn’t give up, I just lowered my expectations.
      Now . . .

  163. KT

    DodgersBeat ‏@DodgersBeat 2m

    .436 BA 44 hits 7HR in June @YasielPuig making a case for Player of the Month #Dodgers

    • foul tip

      Case should be open and shut. Maybe HanRam next month!

      • Anonymous

        Hanley really didn’t get back into the lineup regulalry until the middle of the month, otherwise…might have given Puig a run for his money.

  164. Anonymous

    I still want Fernando to teach Ryu the screw ball.

  165. KT

    pic.twitter.com/zwWBWpML8c

  166. KT

    good evening all

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