Plunked ribs knock Hanley Ramirez out of starting lineup

Bruised ribs from getting hit by a first-inning Joe Kelly pitch have put Hanley Ramirez on the sidelines with Andre Ethier (not to mention Matt Kemp, lest we forget).

The breaks are trying to beat the boys. Let’s see how the boys respond.

Dodgers at Cardinals, 1:07 p.m.

Carl Crawford, LF
Mark Ellis, 2B
Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
Yasiel Puig, RF
Juan Uribe, 3B
Skip Schumaker, CF
A.J. Ellis, C
Nick Punto, SS
Clayton Kershaw, P

Another note: Eric Collins and Steve Lyons will not return to the Dodger broadcast team in 2014, according to Bill Shaikin of the Times.

  • ASW1

    Schumaker and Punto! Dodgers will kill them softly today!

    • scooplew

      Former Cardinals to the rescue!

  • das411

    that lineup sure would look different with Dee up in the leadoff or two spot, wouldn’t it?

    /says the guy who has watched approximately zero games with him playing before the NLDS

    • Bob_Hendley

      Well, that would explain your comment.

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    I do yard work, take down the pool for the winter, get cleaned up all this to keep my mind off the game and it worked but as soon as I turn on the TV I find out Hanley is unavailable…there goes the calm vibes

  • scooplew

    If we get three runs, I think we will win. If we get four or more, I feel very comfortable about a win. Fewer than three throws it up in the air.

  • Adam Luther

    Kershaw might be pitching inside today.

    • ASW1

      To Carlos Beltran

  • das411

    over/under on the first hit off of Wacha – 20 batters in?

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      2nd batter :)

      • das411

        it worked, youse can thank me later!

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Do the same with runs!

  • Jack Dawkins

    No Collins or Lyons pleases me. No Hanley gives me shivers.

  • WBBsAs

    Amidst all the downers, I’m delighted to hear about Collins and Lyons. Steiner should be next.

    • 4d3fect

      Unfortunately, ALL those guys are paid to fill the “empty space” with sound, not necessarily to make any sense. Vin being a notable exception.

      • WBBsAs

        Vin is the standard by which the Dodgers should seek broadcasters, even if he’s irreplaceable.

    • twaseverthus

      Steiner should be the first to go once the season’s over. I’ll take the obnoxiousness of Lyons over the utter ineptitude of Steiner.

      • WBBsAs

        All of them except Vin and Monday (whom I can tolerate) deserve to go.

  • 4d3fect

    Read Shaikin’s article. None too pleased with Donnie, to say the least.

    • WBBsAs

      Deservedly so.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Shoot, shoulda been a double!

  • ASW1

    What’s with these guys tripping over 1st base?

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      They should be familiar with 1st . .. even 2nd. The others are unfamiliar territory.

      • ASW1

        Last night Crawford did it too

    • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

      actually no trip…stubbled on his own two feet 3 steps after

  • das411

    well alright then – sure would be nice if AGon actually prove he was worth that massive massive contract right about now

    • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

      Hey we didn’t give it to him.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      I think he proved it during the year.

  • ASW1

    Jon’s lineup is wrong up top – Gonzo in the 3 hole

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Puig — nice and easy!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Gonna need something from AGon and Puig today.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      MUCH more than that .. .

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    0/7 . . . he wouldn’t be human if he’s not pressing . . . don’t take it to the field!

  • ASW1

    1 for 10 w/RISP last night – so far today, 0 for 1

    • John_from_Aus

      With the reduced quality lineup, we certainly have to make the most of our chances today

  • 4d3fect

    oh jeez.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    slipping away

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Kersh — that’s one!

  • John_from_Aus

    Interesting, going after him on the first pitch both times

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Get the K, Kersh!

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    Gonzo and Puig attempting to make Wacha look like Bob Gibson.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      The Dodgers as a team have shown that talent through the year . . . especially the 1st part.

  • Spence

    Disappointed in Hanley. Unless his ribs are broken,he needs to be in there.

    • btimmer

      Sore ribs only hurt players when they swing the bat, field, or throw. Other than that, it’s easy.

      • Spence

        Nobody is 100% at this time of the year.

        • foul tip

          No, but it’s obvious this wasn’t your basic run-of-the-mill ribplunking.

    • foul tip

      As much as he wants to win, if he could be in there he would be.

      At least even money the medical staff held him out to keep things from getting worse.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        No doubt — on both counts. Hanley has been hurt all season.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Kid K!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Filthy.

    • John_from_Aus

      I can just picture the strikeout, typical Kershaw curve, start out way high and drops in at the last moment

      • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

        Add in Holiday looking foolish as has he swings through air.

      • foul tip

        And the hitter, no matter how good, with no chance.

  • John_from_Aus

    C’mon, 1 more

    • scooplew

      Are you watching in Australia on MLB.TV?

      • John_from_Aus

        no. just on gameday and getting the scene painted for me by Dodger thoughts

        • foul tip

          Is TBS available there on satellite?

          • John_from_Aus

            I’m not sure

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    YES!!!!!

    • John_from_Aus

      If that doesn’t give us confidence, nothing will!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Way to get out of it Clayton!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    This is Clayton Kershaw!

  • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

    YES!!

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    Way to battle back Kershaw.

  • Spence

    X Rays for Hanley

    • ASW1

      Cracked rib maybe

      • foul tip

        From your lips… NOT.

  • Resistor

    Listening to Vin provides a certain comfort even if things don’t look great at the outset. Kind of like a big blue pacifier.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      He’s been that for the 40+ years I’ve been listening.

      • Resistor

        After TBS for the LDS, last night was my breaking point. Feels like home listening to Vin, after feeling like an outsider on TV these past several games

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Every time I hear Wacha’s name, I think of the Muppets. (But I know he’s coming off of two great games.)

  • John_from_Aus

    some nice quick outs so far, which will help Clayton last longer

    • das411

      this game looks like it might take about half of the overall real-time that last night did

      • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

        One hopes our side has at least one more run than the other guys when it’s over.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          One does hope!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    The Kid means business . . . now help yourself!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    20 pitches through 2, the Kid is cruising.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      which only means a scoreless tie unless the offense decides they are part of this series

  • foul tip

    At times Clayton gets what sort of looks like a fiendish grin or grimace right before a pitch. That has to make batters even more confident.

    Sort of like “dude, you’re going down. And you’re going to like it.”

  • twaseverthus

    Hanley left the ballpark? Good grief.

  • Resistor

    Any guesses on who replaces Lyons and Collins? Will they be replaced or will Charlie and Monday just use both microphones? I keep thinking it will be someone who will be groomed to take over for Vin when he steps away.

    • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

      With all due respect, I could give two toots and a snap about 2014.

      • Resistor

        We can talk about Schu and Punto and no offense if you like.

        • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

          And Puig’s lack of offense!

      • scooplew

        We are all frustrated. He was just asking a question about the announcers.

        • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

          I didn’t mean it as strongly as I typed it.

          • foul tip

            Is your keyboard smoking? ;;])

          • scooplew

            Understood. Thanks.

      • twaseverthus

        I do: that’ll be the year that the Dodgers win the World Series with a lineup that includes Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier, Hanley Ramirez, and a pitching staff that features Chad Billingsley as its number 3 starter.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Definitely something to look forward to . . . and still this season to treasure, with hopes to continue . . .

    • KG16

      Magic Johnson and Bill Simmons?

      • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

        Hahaha, good one.

      • Resistor

        No idea why, but I really like Dave Flemming, who I hear quite a bit being in SF. He reminds me of an old timey guy trapped in the 2000′s. I know a lot of SF Dodger fans can’t stand him, perhaps I’m alone. It would not be the first time I was alone in my opinions

    • Jack Dawkins

      Joe Morgan is available…..

      • 4d3fect

        Bite your tongue!

        • Jack Dawkins

          Id have to remove it from my cheek first.

    • https://www.facebook.com/kmt59 KT

      need to edit charlie and Steiner are the same person

      • Resistor

        Done. I think

  • John_from_Aus

    This might be 0-0 in the 20th, with Kershaw and Wacha still going :)

  • ASW1

    “Down go the birds” – Vin

  • das411

    yknow there is a blogger for AirlineReporter.com who is taking the two longest flights in the world this weekend, LAX to Singapore now and then from there to Newark – almost makes you wonder if this whole series could be completed while that dude is airborne…

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Let’s go, Dodgers, let’s go!

    • John_from_Aus

      we need to score here

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        SOMEwhere!

      • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

        Grins. No, we need to score in St. Louis. Runs scored in Oz don’t do us any good.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          until next year!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Deep breath, Puig!

  • Jack Dawkins

    This is Puig’s best at bat of these 2 games.

    • scooplew

      He hasn’t one ball hard and fair. He looks overmatched.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        we know he can do it . . . seems it must be in his head . . . and burrowing deeper with each AB

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Someone put the Dodger offense on milk cartons . . . maybe they can be found before this series is over.

    • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

      A nasty little voice in the back of my head has started saying “Remember the Orioles in 1966.” I’m trying to bat it down.

      • btimmer

        In 1966, the Dodgers had 35 men reach base TOTAL in four games. The Dodgers have already had 17 batters reach safely in two games.

    • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

      Hello Google: How do I hit with runners in scoring position?

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Now it’s “How do I get on?”

    • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

      Hello Google: What is third base?

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Clayton says it’s the farthest YOU are going to go!

  • John_from_Aus

    At least Wacha is over 60 now on his pitch count, we just need to hang in there

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Clay!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    That’s the two I was thinking about!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Nice DP, Punto has been solid defensively.

    • scooplew

      Absolutely. All season long.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    I’m glad he did, but swing on a 3-0 pitch?! When Kersh may be showing weakness? . . . . That really must’ve been his pitch.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Guantes “de Oro” Uribe as good as ever there.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

      No spanish speakers here? Translates to Gloves of Gold.

  • Jack Dawkins

    Kershaw is in a masteful mode. Efficient and surgical dismantling of their offense.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      only fair since ours seems to have been dismantled since Monday night!

  • WinnipegDave

    Just came in from taking my son and a bunch of neigbourhood kids to McDonald’s (only 1 is mine). I can’t believe how fast this game is going. 5th inning is coming up already! Kershaw is amazing…

    • ASW1

      This Wacha kid not bad either – retired 12 Dodgers in a row now.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    AJ!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    AJ!

  • ASW1

    Oh boy, a runner in scoring position !!!!

  • WinnipegDave

    Okay Shredder – sneak one through the infield.

    • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

      and slide headfirst into first

      • WinnipegDave

        Ha ha – good one!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Nick!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    How do you take that?

    • WinnipegDave

      Yeah – it wasn’t even too close to being out of the strike zone. In Punto’s defense he did do an exaggerated crouch to make it look more like a ball.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      glad I can’t see — it’s frustrating enough just hearing it

    • Jack Dawkins

      Wasnt borderline at all. You have to protect the plate on that one.

  • ASW1

    So Punto swings at 2 out of the zone and then looks at strike 3?

  • ASW1

    Oh, Hanley, where for art thou?

    • WinnipegDave

      Without Hanley, without Puig hitting, without Either it could be a troubling series.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        It was even with Hanley and Andre in the lineup last night . . . but since he was hit in the 1st inning, Hanley was probably hurting the whole game.

        Still, Uribe can remember this is the postseason . . . and there have been other heroes throughout the year.

      • scooplew

        And a painfully short one.

  • Bob_Hendley

    OK, now freeze him at second.

    • Bob_Hendley

      or third.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Kid — gotta bear down again.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Their RISP BA is insane!

    • Bob_Hendley

      0-3 today, so far.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Kersh knows he needs a shutout with these bats . . .

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Kid K!

  • John_from_Aus

    runner on 3rd, not outs, can we dodge it again

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      We’ve got the guy on the mound we need . . ..

  • WinnipegDave

    Too bad that didn’t pop into AJ’s glove!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    So Donnie should understand what a squeeze is now.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Wish it had gone to right field…

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    When I heard it was LF, I knew he would score.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Assist on the score to AJ with the PB.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

      Very unAJ-like.

  • WinnipegDave

    If not for that wild pitch/passed ball!

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    Pinch-hit for Kershaw?

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      No way! Who on the bench has more punch than he has?

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Besides Andre, but he’s hurting.

  • WinnipegDave

    Instead of shadowing 1988 and the exploits of that Dodger team, if things don’t go well today we may need to turn to 1965 for inspiration.

    • scooplew

      And Yom Kippur was last month.

  • scooplew

    To John in Australia: The fly was in medium left field. Crawford’s throw was poor, but it would have taken a brilliant throw to get him. Crawford doesn’t have a strong arm. I think the throw was cut off.

    • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

      Throw was toward the mound, not the plate. Crawford tried, but his arm isn’t like Puig’s or Beltran’s or Kemp’s. It’s not in Juan Pierre’s class, but it’s not real good.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Kersh! “If it’s meant to be, it’s up to me.”

  • WinnipegDave

    Just that easy.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Nice!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    A break! A good one!

  • WinnipegDave

    Let’s go Dodgers!

  • das411

    AN ERROR THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG FINALLY

  • btimmer

    Should be single + e4

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Looks like Kershaw was safe anyways.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Mark!

  • WinnipegDave

    Do they walk AGon to get to Puig?

    • Adam Luther

      Yes.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Yep! Pressure on Puig!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Ok now Puig really needs to step up!

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Or step into it and take one for the team.

      • Adam Luther

        Not a bad idea. Otherwise just hit the ball out of the infield.

  • WinnipegDave

    Okay Puig, time for something good.

  • scooplew

    Most significant moment of the series.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Help us out ump..

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Puig!

    • scooplew

      C’mon Puig!

      • ASW1

        C’mon Puig!

  • WinnipegDave

    Should be 3-1 right now.

    • WinnipegDave

      The count, that is.

      • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

        Should be 1-1 now, the score that is.

        • WinnipegDave

          Yes.

  • Jack Dawkins

    I have no nails left to bite.

  • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

    Oh, Christ.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Puig — hanging tough!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Chased ball 5.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Hated to hear the crowd roar . . .

  • scooplew

    Terrible, terrible, terrible.

  • Adam Luther

    Monday-”ball out of strike zone and a half hearted swing and only one strike thrown in the series of pitches.”

    • scooplew

      Perfect description.

  • WBBsAs

    So far today, I am not blaming Don.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Juan had an 0-2 count Monday . . .

  • Adam Luther

    Ugh.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    I’m shaking my head and not seeing much hope . . .

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Wasted. Again.

    • scooplew

      This is just killing me, and I am wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too old for this.

      • RBI

        I’m with you.

  • scooplew

    I’m afraid we’re done. Done, done, done.

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    Best chance all game and blow it.

  • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

    HULK SMASH

  • ASW1

    Now 1 for 15 w/RISP for the series

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    I’m guessing Puig has terrible head games going on right now . . . and the rest of the “batters” getting there. This is 1st half all over again — ‘how are we going to lose today?’

    • DS1981

      So you’re one of those fans who actually think they know what is in players heads?

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Nope — guessing, like I wrote.

        • DS1981

          Ok, why would you guess that?

          • ASW1

            It’s rather obvious – and I’d guess the same.

          • DS1981

            So each time a player goes hitless in 6-8 at bats he’s a headcase?

          • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

            No, but he wouldn’t be human if he didn’t start thinking about it pretty hard.

          • scooplew

            We’re all frustrated. No need to pick an argument.

  • Spence

    Wacha’s a stud. Puig though is really struggling these two games. 5ks in 9 at bats

    • Adam Luther

      Watched the highlights vs. the Pirates and regarding Wacha, I said “uh-oh”.

    • scooplew

      Someone should introduce him to the strike zone. Seriously, he should spend a lot of the off-season in the cage with a batting instructor watching every pitch and swing.

  • WinnipegDave

    Big moment and Molina hops away from home plate in excitement – just as he did after the double play last night. Or, in his world, showboats to show up the other team. The Best Fans in Baseball (B-FIBs) didn’t seem to notice.

  • btimmer

    That was Wacha’s last batter too. He’s being hit for.

    • Adam Luther

      100 count?

      • btimmer

        Changed their mind. Wong was up for a while.

  • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

    My son has literally started doing yoga right in front of me … He’s 5. …. I think he’s telling me to calm down.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    This is what I was afraid of. Ace and Ace Jr. go and do their job, but LA has scored in only one inning — and that was 16 innings ago!

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    If you can’t even get a fly ball to the outfield with bases loaded and none out, you barely deserve to be in the playoffs.

    • Resistor

      Left or center field. Right no good unless to the fence

    • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

      There was one out, but I agree even a fly ball from Puig ties the game. Heck if the ump made the correct calls he would have walked one in.

      • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

        Ellis popped out with them loaded, didn’t he?

        • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

          No, just second and third at that point. They walked Adrian to load them.

          • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

            Ah. I was pulling clothes out of the drier.

          • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

            Though a sac fly from Ellis would have worked too.

          • Adam Luther

            Which is why I would have had him bunt.

  • Jack Dawkins

    Kershaw only at 65 pitches. dodgers can do this.

  • Adam Luther

    I might have had Ellis bunt and force St.L to make the play.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Kid K! How soon does he come up again?

  • NoahUCLA

    Ethier and Ramirez this inning?

    • Adam Luther

      Why not.

    • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

      Is Hanley back from the hospital?

  • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

    The headline at dodgers.com covering last night’s game: Dodgers squander opportunity …

    Can you say “cut and paste?”

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, AJ — redemption time!

  • Adam Luther

    No PH here.

  • WinnipegDave

    One inning too late for the long fly ball out.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Love how Vinny says “Koufax” for Kersh!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Nick! C’mon, Kersh!

  • Adam Luther

    Nice for the lefty.

  • Spence

    even after 111 pitches he’s at an easy 96 mph

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    That crowd goes QUICKLY from 60 to 0!

  • NoahUCLA

    Now Kershaw is out. That sucks.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

      Did they say that? I just see STL pitching change.

      • NoahUCLA

        He’s due up with 2 outs and a man on, how can you keep him in?

        • WinnipegDave

          But with 2 outs and the runner only on first, it is a limited scoring chance. Rather have Kershaw still batting and pitching.

        • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

          Kershaw only made 72 pitches and the bull pen is taxed from last night. Not to mention he has more hits than Young this post season. Don’t like it at all.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Wacha is riding some string of games . . . (let’s hope this is their last series this year, tho!)

  • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

    Who’s coming in to bat? Double play Young?

  • Bob_Hendley

    Well, we did manage to get five hits off off the guy, who only gave up only two in total in his previous two games.

  • Spence

    This is a spot where you should pinch run Dee Gordon and try to steal

    • scooplew

      Agreed.

  • Spence

    Nobody cares if Punto’s removed from the game in that 8th spot.

  • Jack Dawkins

    Id leave Kershaw in.

    • WinnipegDave

      Absolutely agreed.

    • Jack Dawkins

      The only benefit i see to taking him out at 70 pitches is he is now our Game 4 starter.

      • Spence

        I cant see him starting a game on 2 days rest. Did you mean Game 5?

        • Jack Dawkins

          Yes….cant count with the nerves.

          • NoahUCLA

            But then Greinke needs to start on 3 days res in game 4, which so far they say they won’t do.

      • Adam Luther

        Game 5?

    • Bob_Hendley

      Gotta take a shot at a run at this point.

  • Spence

    Wow Siegrist has some amazing numbers

  • twaseverthus

    WTF. Mattingly fired.

  • SaMoDodger

    No no no no no!

  • SaMoDodger

    Removing kersh is bad enough, but hitting young here is criminal.

  • RBI

    Why Mattingly? Why why why pull Kershaw?

    • Spence

      Maybe he has confidence that the bullpen can hold the Cardinals to 1 run. At this point you need runs more than outs.

    • Adam Luther

      Need a run.

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    Young does have 2,400 hits in his career, guys.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      uno mas, por favor — here!

    • SaMoDodger

      And four outs in his last two abs. Those hits were a while ago.

    • twaseverthus

      So do a lot of guys who can no longer hit.

      • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

        He hit .317 for us after we got him.

        • twaseverthus

          The rest of his .314/.321/.392 slash line explains why I initially found that so hard to believe.

  • Robert

    kershaw is at 72 pitches. he can EASILY give you 2 or even 3 more innings. this is beyond comprehension.
    let alone with michael young against siegrist who is tough to hit for ANYBODY.
    It is such a remote possilbioity you score with 2 outs and a guy on first to pull your ace after 72 pitches. DUMB

    • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

      If Young’s chances against him are slim, then how much worse would Kershaw’s be?

      • Robert

        The chances of scoring with Young in that situation are incredibly LOWER with 2 outs than it is for our Pen to hold the Cards to 0 runs over the next 2-3 innings (innings that Kershaw could have pitched).
        Thus..you take your chances with the top of the lineup next inning and have Kershaw mow them down and ENSURE it stays at a one run game.
        I reckon STL will score 1 or 2 in the next inning or two and that will be that.

  • WinnipegDave

    That could help.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Young!

    • John_from_Aus

      Please

  • WinnipegDave

    One more!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    One more WP/PB . . . please!

  • Spence

    Now pinch run Dee at 2nd base. A hit means a tie game

    • Adam Luther

      Saving him for when A-Gon gets on with a hit or IW’d.

  • http://farinella.com/ David Farinella

    Hey, it wasn’t a double play.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Fly ball won’t do Young. Thanks for nothing.

  • WinnipegDave

    Just no breaks right now. Even the breaks aren’t giving us a break.

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    Okay, bullpen, hold ‘em.

  • Spence

    Losing both Kershaw/Greinke starts would be devastating.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    I believe Vin said it was “unforgivable” of the offense in the 6th, particularly the two Ks . . . even he’s frustrated?

  • Robert

    Proof in the pudding. A crimninal decision to replace your ace…the best pitcher on the planet in a one run game with a guy on first, 2 outs, and a STUD coming out of their pen. Even pitch hitting, the chances of scoring are MUCH MUCH less than the chances of our pen holding them to 0 runs for the next two innings.

  • scooplew

    There is the deep fly ball that Young couldn’t deliver last night.

  • SaMoDodger

    Mattingly is begging to be fired. Maybe michael young will let him sleep on his couch. Young has been his undoing.

    • WinnipegDave

      I’m very frustrated as well – but I really don’t think Mattingly is begging to be fired. He is not the one not getting key hits, etc.

      • Adam Luther

        Exactly.

      • SaMoDodger

        His decisions have been very questionable, in both cases removing one of your premier players for the rest of the game in exchange for a the unlikely event that one of your scrubs makes something out of a baserunner on first. High risk situations with big downsides.

  • twaseverthus

    Didn’t think Donnie could outdo himself, but he just did.

  • Adam Luther

    Good decision by Mattingly there – need to generate a run.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Agreed.

    • Robert

      Disagree. The chances of scoring there are so remote as it is. ENSURE it stays a one run game for the next 2 innings. If it goes to 2 or 3 run lead..it is OVER.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Well, we were one more WP away from a run.

  • Spence

    Its like the regular season. When Puig/Hanley were not on fire, this team was not good. And Puig hasnt had a hit this series and Hanley is hurt. So its not a good team right now.

    • WinnipegDave

      Absolutely. The defense has been solid, the pitching wonderful. The lineup of hitters has left a lot to be desired.

      • SaMoDodger

        true, the hitters deserve the blame here.

        • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

          And the Cards’ pitcher deserves some credit. This is, what, his 3rd consecutive great game?

          • Adam Luther

            Yes.

          • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

            From Yahoo: “Wacha, who came within one out of hurling a no-hitter in the regular season finale against the Washington Nationals, did not allow a hit to the Pirates until the eighth inning of a tension-packed pitchers’ duel at PNC Park.”

          • Bob_Hendley

            We got five hits off the guy with this line up.

          • CraigRandall1

            Woo-hoo

          • WinnipegDave

            Sure, but he didn’t pitch any better than Kershaw did.

  • NoahUCLA

    Puig and AJ among others need to be fired in this game, not Mattingly. Also, our health is killing us as we worried about.

  • WinnipegDave

    I know that Vin just said this, but I am frustrated that the Dodgers pass ball led to a run, while the Dodgers had a runner advance two bases on consecutive wild pitches and it didn’t matter one little bit.

    • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

      “Timing is everything.”

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        and execution after the event

  • NoahUCLA

    Well. Beli worked out fine so far. Can we get a run? please!! Anyone, anywhere!!

  • SaMoDodger

    Seems like clayton has been victimized by unearned runs a lot lately.

    • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

      “Lately?” Seems to me (without looking it up) that it’s been all season long. He sure didn’t get much run support.

      • WinnipegDave

        With looking it up, 7 unearned runs this season (55 runs, 48 earned).

        • WinnipegDave

          That is just for the regular season.

      • SaMoDodger

        Just 7 unearned runs all year, but three in the last two starts.

  • Spence

    Matheny has his bullpen figured out. Choate for Crawford, then his righties.

  • Adam Luther

    If your are playing percentages here you PH Ethier.

    • Spence

      Ellis in that 2 spot really hurts the offense

      • Bob_Hendley

        3 for 9 in the two games.

  • Spence

    C’mon Agon. Need a homer.

    • Bob_Hendley

  • NoahUCLA

    This guy is scary good.

  • Spence

    dodgers look like they want to go back to LA

    • Adam Luther

      …and will need to sweep to force a game 6 unless…

      • Spence

        I think they can win Lance Lynn vs hopefully Greinke (if he gets Game 4). Wainright vs Ryu looks like a mismatch tho.

  • Robert

    22 innings and 2 runs will not get it down. Our pitching has been phenomenal.
    Going up against a team with as good of pitching as the Cards WITHOUT Hanley AND without Kemp is doomed from the beginning…

    • Robert

      And with Puig completely disappearing these last 2 games…no chance..even with Greinke and Kershaw.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    not with a bang but a whimper . . .

  • WinnipegDave

    I realize it doesn’t look good for today or the series, but if we can recover some of our swagger at home and beat their ace, we are right back in it.

    • NoahUCLA

      Or recover it in the 9th?

    • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

      “Bloop and a blast!”

    • twaseverthus

      Kinda mandatory.

    • DS1981

      But the very reason why it doesn’t look good for the series aside from being down 2-0, is that Hanley and Ethier still are hurt. This team’s “swagger” is it’s two co aces and Hanley. And none of them will be available for the next to games.

      • WinnipegDave

        Swagger can be anyone. Ryu dueling Wainwright to a draw. The Ellis’s coming up with a timely hit. Either going yard. That my friend is swagger.

        • DS1981

          That’s not swagger, that’s average players getting lucky.

          • WinnipegDave

            Nope – still swagger. Especially when average players do it – that adds to the swagger.

  • WinnipegDave

    Nice catch Shoe!

  • NoahUCLA

    At least the pen is not making Mattingly look bad.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

      Yeah it’s just the hitters.

      • 4d3fect

        Wait, he needs EXTRA help to look bad?

  • Robert

    Well Puig Uribe and Shu due up.
    Puig – shorten your swing and swing at strikes.

  • SaMoDodger

    Hit dre for schu?

    • Robert

      No doubt…

  • SaMoDodger

    Collins will not be missed. Except by deaf people.

  • WinnipegDave

    Find a way to get on Puig. Find a way.

  • Adam Luther

    Right here.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Right now!

  • Spence

    Normally i’d be bummed out, but Collins/Lyons not being back next year still makes today a win in my book.

  • Adam Luther

    4K’s

  • Spence

    Puig is just lost at the plate.

    • DS1981

      no more so than any other hitter on this team. At least he has the talent to find whatever is “lost”, the others don’t.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    Puig has been taking that strike a lot lately. He thinks they’re off the plate but they aren’t.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      hopefully some serious work with him by Monday night

  • WinnipegDave

    We have not seen the last of Yasiel Puig.

  • Spence

    These relievers the Cardinals have are just sick.

    • WinnipegDave

      Very true.

  • ASW1

    I’m just hoping this won’t be a sweep at this point

    • Adam Luther

      I would prefer that the Cards not do their celebrating on L.A. soil.

      • ASW1

        Absolutely

      • 4d3fect

        Rather no Cards celebration at all.

  • NoahUCLA

    I think last night just killed us.

    • 4d3fect

      Well, momentum doesn’t favor us, for sure, but there’s a few more games to play yet.
      And some plunking to be done.

  • Spence

    101 mph dang

  • ASW1

    And the best fans in baseball erupt……

  • Spence

    Those last 2 innings were pathetic. Go home to LA and regroup

  • http://www.twitter.com/ElJefedor Jeffrey Thomas III

    They got two hits, and still won. It’s getting a bit depressing.

  • Adam Luther

    12 team K’s, Puig with a 1/3 of them.

  • http://www.linkmeister.com/wordpress/ Linkmeister

    Shades of 1966.

    • DS1981

      Shades of the last 25 years is more like it.

      • WinnipegDave

        And so on Monday, we open the shades and let the sun shine in.

  • Adam Luther

    Just win two of three at home and force a game 6.

    • WinnipegDave

      Very doable. Doesn’t mean it will happen, but it’s not out of the question.

  • 14hodges

    Somebody needs to talk with Puig and help him with his mental state. His body language is so sad. I hope some of the older guys can put an arm around him. We need him to rebound.

    • Spence

      i think he needs to respect the umps more because they arent going to do him any favors if he reacts negatively at the plate.

      • Adam Luther

        A rookie.

  • RBI

    One. One run. Not even earned.

    • WinnipegDave

      I still vividly recall Mike Schmidt hitting a first inning home run against Reuss in 1983. Dodgers lost 1-0. That run was earned at least.

  • ASW1

    Before this series began, I would have never believed the Dodgers bats could all of a sudden become so pathetic w/RISP.

  • Adam Luther

    Dodger bullpen came through today in a hostile environment – a bright spot.

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    NPUT