Lineup of the Gods chat

Dodgers at Diamondbacks, 7:10 p.m.
Elian Herrera, CF
Luis Cruz, SS
Jerry Hairston Jr., LF
James Loney, 1B
Adam Kennedy, 2B
A.J. Ellis, C
Scott Van Slyke, RF
Juan Uribe, 3B
Chad Billingsley, P

From the Dodger press notes:

Los Angeles Dodgers All-Time Strikeout Leaders

1. Don Sutton 2,696
2. Don Drysdale 2,283
3. Sandy Koufax 2,214
4. Fernando Valenzuela 1,759
5. Orel Hershiser 1,456
6. Ramon Martinez 1,314
7. Bob Welch 1,292
8. Hideo Nomo 1,200
9. Chan Ho Park 1,177
10. Claude Osteen 1,162
11. Burt Hooton 1,042
12. Chad Billingsley 998

  • Jack Dawkins

    LAT’d.   Vin really got sunburned today. 

  • Anonymous

    Josh Fields is 14/27 in July, by the way.

  • Anonymous

    Geoff Blum in the lineup for the DBacks gives this game something of a 2006 vibe.

  • Anonymous

    >> Los Angeles Dodgers All-Time Strikeout Leaders

    I hate it when they ignore the Brooklyn players.  Dazzy struck out 1,918 for the team.

  • KT

    Good Hit Luis!!

  • KT

    JERRY!!!!

    Nice catch by the fan

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      thank god you’re back KT

      • KT

        I haven’t gone anywhere…I was catching up on all the posts
         
        I have a pre-game ritual to perform lately

        • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

          did anyone at all congratulate the horrible dodger offense yesterday for the 13 hits?

          • Anonymous

            I did

          • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

            awesome aussie

          • KT

            No one really ripped them
             
            there were a few comments about missed opportunities including one from me

          • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

            well 13 hits was pretty good for a bad offensive team. they can’t help they don’t run very fast.

  • KT

    Good start
     
    Let’s hold them Chad

    • Anonymous

      lets see if we can get runs anywhere else in the 9 innings

      • KT

        We will this is Chase Field

        • Anonymous

          Hope so, we had problems in the late innings yesterday. Here’s hoping ;)

          • KT

            we scored just not enough yesterday

  • Anonymous

    Chad hasn’t gone more than seven since his first start.  Good time to turn things around a little.

  • KT

    NICE CATCH JERRY!!!

  • foul tip

    Apparently Hairston likes the 3 spot…or maybe just any spot, as long as he’s in one.  

    • KT

      He says he is really confortable there

  • Anonymous

    I notice Justin Upton is not yet a Dodger.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=550218622 Christopher Jones

    So far (small sample size of yesterday + one inning today), I am liking how Cruz fields the SS position.  Looks confident out there!

    • KT

      I love his bat

      • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

        as i watched him last night he took some really brutal swings the first two times up i think i remember. but then he crushed one off the left field fence. got everyone’s attention.

  • KT

    Nice hit AJ
     
    Come on SVS

  • Anonymous

    So two more K’s for Bills and he’ll have 1000.

  • Anonymous

     Well, obviously Chad is not going to catch Burt tonight. But he should by the end of the season.

  • Anonymous

    Just saw the Hr, my daughter mentioned that Jerry looked particularly serious as he batted. I ried to explain ‘game-face’ to her.

    • KT

      He was still hurting from the foul ball off the leg also, so that might have been a small factor

  • Anonymous

    I see lots of blue in that crowd.  Somehow I don’t think there will be many others besides me in a few weeks in St. Louis…

    • KT

      I know a few Dodger fans who sometimes make the trip to Busch…Is it still called Busch?

    • Terry Austin

      I’ll be there on 7/26, nxs.

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    told you he was taking pitches now!

  • Anonymous

    Uribe would bail out on my wiffle ball.

    • KT

      ^_^ wiffle balls have wicked movement

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=550218622 Christopher Jones

    What alternate universe is Uribe playing in?  Seemed like he had no idea what was going on — like some kind of space-time continuum problem.

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      i think don baseball told him they weren’t throwing him strikes and maybe he should take a few. and like in chatrooms he took em a little too seriously.

    • Anonymous

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_914453&v=9DqK2PkFgtw&src_vid=YQWszrZHBPI

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=550218622 Christopher Jones

        I think it’s pretty clear Uribe ate his meat and his puddin’

    • foul tip

       Or maybe a black hole?

      • Anonymous

        not just light and matter – abstract things like .obp and money, too

  • foul tip

    Juan Uribe, spectator.  Gameday says 3 called strikes.  Bat not off his shoulder.  Splendid.

    • Anonymous

       At least the mendoza line gets Ned’s attention.  I hope.  That’s about what it takes.

    • KT

      oh yea it was terrible…obvious strikes

  • KT

    Not good for the catcher to argue with the HP ump

  • Anonymous

    999…

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    Now the Masher C Bills is up! i think he’s going deep on this guy.

  • Anonymous

    Billingsley’s batting average is tied for fourth highest in the starting lineup.

  • KT

    Everyone Tweeting about after the break the strong possibility of Uribe being DFA’d

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      maybe he heard and that was why he was so distracted that last ab. 

      • Anonymous

        As much as I feel he deserves the DFA, right after we lose our starting shortstop for six weeks seems like the wrong time to do it.

        • foul tip

           Maybe not if Josh Fields is an acceptable alternative?

        • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

          got two guys who can play shortstop. and i really don’t think uribe standing where a shortstop stands equals him being able to play shortstop. he’s gotten so so stiff and immobile.

          • Anonymous

            I disagree.  Uribe has actually been excellent in the field throughout his Dodger tenure, including now.  Unfortunately, he’s been excellent ONLY in the field.

          • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

            i disagree. having great hand eye coordination but having little range at 3b is very good. no range at ss is no bueno.

  • KT

    Could have used that one last night…oh well

  • KT

    Good hit AJ…Again

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    If Uribe goes 0 for 4 tonight, he’ll be 80 for 400 (.200) in his Dodgers career. Emergence of Luis Cruz could mean it ends there.

    • Anonymous

      I just don’t get what Fields needs to do to get that spot.

      Occasionally rescue armfuls of kittens from flaming pet stores WHILE consistently flirting with 1.000 OPS at the AAA level?

      • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

        maybe the people on the ground know more about the situation than we (you) do? they certainly see the same stats you do.

      • Anonymous

        He can’t play 3rd.

        • Anonymous

           Is that the hitch?  Mediocre-to-bad defense?

          • Anonymous

            He’s also got like .500 BABIP. Chances are he’s just an average hitter even in AAA. I think we are gonna have to wait until Seager is ready.

          • Anonymous

             He’s probably benefited from inflated ABQ stats.

      • Anonymous

        Fields has not been very good at ABQ until very recently.

        • Anonymous

          Seems consistently awesome at the plate, aside from the Japanese trip, since 2010.

          http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=fields001jos

          There must be defensive issues or personality issues.

          • Anonymous

            OPSing .739 away from the hitters paradise of Isotopes Park is quite the opposite of “consistently awesome”.

          • Anonymous

             You don’t find his colorado springs line impressive? 

          • Anonymous

            What, you mean way back last year?  When he was playing home games in a park whose elevation is even higher than Denver’s?  You’re kidding, right?

          • Anonymous

            CS’s team slugging is only .417 for the year so far, but, sure, you have a good point.

      • foul tip

         And devising a foolproof entry/exit/parking plan with no delays whatsoever for DS.  Yeah. That might be enough.

        • Anonymous

           I’d be almost as impressed if he could explain who even owns the parking lots as of next spring.

      • Anonymous

         There are already too many kittens in the world.

    • Anonymous

      Both Cruz and Herrera get the bat on the ball far more than Uribe, and both can play multiple positions.

  • KT

    SVS swing at the Loooooowwww ball

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      of all the people being heckled in the dodger starting lineups apart from uribe svs is the one least likely to get a hit. he really shouldn’t be playing. but the old guys need a rest so what are you going to do.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe try Sands again? Couldn’t be any worse.

        • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

          i agree. but with ethier /kemp coming back it’s moot. i really think svs has proved beyond a showodw of a doubt that  he’s not ready. hope he makes adjustment. sands must be in the Dejesus Memorial Doghouse or his fundamentals are worse.

  • foul tip

    Has Chad been as sharp/dominant so far as the boxscore makes it appear?  3IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 3 Ks?

    • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

      Mostly. Three hard-hit balls that I can think of.

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      mostly yes. about the same as the last outing though. he was pretty dominant early in that one to. seems unlikely he’ll get through 7 . could happen. would be a good thing.

    • KT

      When he’s missing is usually very close so I would say yes except for the 1st inning where he was hit hard but they were outs

      • KT

        Beautiful 61 mph 12-6 curve

  • KT

    Good inning Chad

  • Anonymous

    No idea if he knows or cares, but going into the ASB with an era under 4 might not be the worst thing for Chad’s confidence.

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      nice jinx

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    OK Bills is now the second best bunter on the team after C CAP.

  • KT

    Nice hit Elian

    • KT

      Come on Luis

  • Anonymous

    Ely pitched another quality start tonight at home in ABQ, but he may come away with the loss.

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    this is about the time things start going bad for c bills. hopefully he can overcome.

  • Anonymous

    Here we go again.

  • Anonymous

    ok bring in the pen like right now

  • KT

    Ok time to get those runs back…Let’s go Blue

  • Anonymous

    Just having Uribe in the lineup is conceding three or four outs per game.

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      oh no WBB going to the dark side. Luke, Luke.

      • Anonymous

         Huh?

    • Anonymous

      Can I “like” the statement because I agree with the analysis, even though I dislike the situation it describes?  :)

      • Anonymous

         Of course, so long as you elucidate.

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    someone we know isn’t going 7. too bad.

  • Anonymous
    • Anonymous

      Bills has been lucky if anything that those doubles aren’t flying out of the park.

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    lucky just one run with those rockets they hit

  • KT

    AJ!!!!

  • KT

    Come on guys…this is AZ we can score a lot more

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    love ellis in the back half of the lineup. two nice games in a row.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like A.J.’s slump is over.

  • KT

    Uribe is backing away like he isn’t seeing the ball…maybe he has gloucoma

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      in my humble opinion he’s backing up because he’s been told to take pitches because they aren’t throwing him strikes.

    • Anonymous

      They make something for that…  You’d figure a former Lincecum teammate would have that one covered.

      • KT

        his eye do look a little red ^_^

  • KT

    Come on Tony

    • KT

      tony stung that ball but right at Upton

  • Anonymous

    By Uribe standards, that was a good AB.

    • Anonymous

       Relative to his bunt into a double play two months ago, it was a Gibson blast over the wall.

  • KT

    Nice to see Donnie get Uribe out of the game

  • foul tip

    Gameday tells me Uribe has a strikeout, flyout, and groundout.  Can he go where no one has gone before and find a new way to make an out? 

    • Anonymous

       Looking AND swinging AND a fielding error might constitute an anti-cycle.

    • Anonymous

      He could probably interfere with the catcher.

      • foul tip

        Wonder if  Bob T. would put CI by Uribe in a category all its own, like the one for pitchers named Ortiz?

  • Anonymous

    Hernandez was awful last night, but got away with a lot. Maybe tonight he won’t be so lucky.

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    reduce your swing young elian

    • Anonymous

       
      “Control” should be the operative word.

  • KT

    Come on Luis

    • KT

      Good eye Luis
       
      Come on Jerry

  • foul tip

     Well, Uribe didn’t get taken out for defensive purposes.

    Must have been because he was offensive.

  • KT

    too close not to swing but I thought it was a ball

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    In James’ defense he struck out the last two times on two wicked pitches.

    and further in his defense you heard it here first: Loney will hit 276/345/445 or better the second half of this year. this is not a troll. mark it down people.

    • foul tip

      Love to see him heat up.  Isn’t this about the time he got started last year?  Maybe history will repeat. 

      If he gets going, a new Loney might fill the lineup hole created by the old Loney.

      • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

        but then at the end of the year DO NOT i repeat DO NOT resign him dammit.

        • foul tip

           Surely they’ve figured it out, and won’t.  Surely…

  • foul tip

     Not looking to pile on Loney, but he seems to make a lot of third outs to end innings.

  • Anonymous

    Uribe, of course, would never even have reached a full count.

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      WBB Uribe worked a full count the very last time up. cmon now. give a man a break.

      • Anonymous

         Only if he has to dive out of the way of a pitch.

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    Started playing Monopoly in the first inning. Took seven innings to eliminate Young Master Weisman. Young Miss Weisman and I remain. It’s a suspended game to resume Sunday.

    • foul tip

       Game suspended on account of bedtime?

      • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

        Yep

  • KT

    Rally CAPS

  • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

    bobby abreu professional hitter. he looked good swinging the bat last night. just can’t play him a lot.

  • Anonymous

    I love watching Abreu hit.

    • KT

      me too

  • KT

    Another one got away
     
    Night all

  • Anonymous

    Nuts.

  • Anonymous

    One more game until Kemp, our suffering is almost over.

    • Anonymous

       will kemp come back and start raking again?  maybe, but more likely it’s going to take him a few games to get his timing and rhythm.  with this lineup there’s no guarantee he’s gonna get anything good to hit either.

      • Anonymous

        Just the threat of having a legit power hitter in the 3 spot will be amazing after this stretch.

  • Louis Rasky

    After AS game, think the Dodgers should do the following assuming Either and Kemp come back off dl as expected. Unless we hear otherwise, Dee should be moved to the 60 day DL. If he is out 8 weeks that is 56 games, if it is 6 that would be 42. Assuming he has some rehab days he would be close to 60. With that move  I would bring up Fields, probably send down Herreera, with the understanding that if Fields doesn’t produce soon would bring Herrera back quickly.

    SVS will go back down when Kemp comes off the DL, and obviously when Either comes off assuming no other injuries occur, Uribe is DFA’d.

    • Anonymous

      I think Herrera needs to stay

      • Anonymous

         Herrera’s versatility contrasts dramatically with Uribe’s unidimensionality.

        • Anonymous

          Uribe is 3-dimensional. He definitely has a profile. It’s impossible to miss.

          • Anonymous

            In smartphone lingo does that make him 4G?

          • Anonymous

             So the Uribe movie bio will be in 3-D?

          • Anonymous

            A true horror flick WB

        • Anonymous

          >> Herrera’s versatility contrasts dramatically with Uribe’s unidimensionality.

          Oh come on.  Uribe can play three different positions in the infield.  Unfortunately, none of them is in the batter’s box.

  • Anonymous

    Young Mr Seager is 4-8 with a BB and 3 runs in his first 2 games.

    • Anonymous

       Any extra-base hits? Defensive observations?

  • Anonymous

    Gone for 6 weeks to Sierra Leone in west Africa. Hope to see the Dodgers in first place when I come home! And wouldn’t mind getting a overview of what I missed when I get back. Cheers to you all!

    • Anonymous

      We will fill you in if you bring us back some blood diamonds.

    • http://veryolddodgerfan.blogspot.com/ veryolddodgerfan

      would like to hear the story behind such an intersting destination

  • Anonymous

    Shane Victorino took himself out of the lineup for the Phillies after pouting over having to bat 7th today.

    Poor Shane….

    • Anonymous

      And the Phillies offficially become sellers at the Break.

  • Anonymous

    My AllStarGame shopping list. Listen up, Ned !!!
    Cody Ross
    Jed Lowrey
    Kendry Morales

    All can be fitted in for less than We’re paying the Grusome Twosom, Loney and Uribe. Not that we can stop paying them…

  • Anonymous

    It’s early, but Lincecum has already put the Gnats in a 2-0 hole on a long ball by McCutchen.

  • http://www.dodgerthoughts.com/ Jon Weisman

    NPUT

  • Anonymous