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Oldtimers Day


Dodgers doubled off and doubled up, 4-2


August 25 game chat


  1. Bob_in_Vegas

    Had I heard it, my response would’ve been: Agon — again!
    What hurt with Ryu is the HBP and infield single were both with 2 strikes, if I remember correctly.

    Here’s to no more bottom of the 9ths for these next 4 games!

  2. Christian Thompson

    HI Everyone, long time reader infrequent commenter… taking the kids to the game tomorrow and they wanted to go early and try and get autographs. Any suggestions, on the best way to go about it. Is something we should even try? Thanks

    • KT

      where are you sitting?

    • KT

      It’s makes a big difference if you can get signatures or not

    • KT

      Well I can’t wait around here for you to reply..If you are not in the lower level Field boxes by the foul poles (left for Dodgers), Prime ticket Club, Dodger Dugout, or the pavillions (left for Dodgers) then there is no use for you to go early for signatures…I get signatures all the time…if you want to discuss catch me while I’m here and I’ll give you tips

      • Christian Thompson

        Thanks KT, Unfortunately we are sitting way up top so I guess we are probably out of luck. Thanks for the tips though. Next time we will spring for the more expensive seats and get the signatures. Thanks again.

  3. KT

    Nice…I love it…we should get my team to play yours..Let me warn you I have an infield of Gravey Lopes Russel and Cey Plus an Ace of Sandy Koufax and Eric Gagne as my closer

  4. TAFKA_Gagne55

    Lol Joe Biemel

  5. KT

    Dodgers lose…Everyone else who are important (not you Dbags) loses

    Dodgers are still in 2nd place in the MLB standings.

    1 games behind the Barves….very obtainable…Go BLUE!!!!

  6. scooplew

    Phillies and Dbacks are tied 7-7 after 13 innings. Each team has used eight pitchers. Neither team has a position player remaining on the bench.

  7. KT

    Didn’t want to chance these out of the boxes…my son was watching intently.I have a HOF announcer in Scully, two HOF managers in Alston and LaSorda, a starter Koufax, a reliever, Gagne, the infield Garvey, Lopes, Russel and Cey, Matt Kemp in CF and have my LF Monday and RF Puig on the way so all I need is a catcher. I attended all the games except the upcoming Monday and the yet to be released Puig:

  8. KT

    Here is a close up of the ball case in the background:

    • scooplew

      Looks great.

      • KT

        the ball behind the D of the Dodgers logo was the one my daughter got for her birthday this year…32 signatures of the current roster plus a couple of rookies (Yimi Garcia, Rusty Ryal and at the time Rookie Yasiel Puig) Puig signature is displayed

        • scooplew

          One of my prized signed balls is one I got a Dodgers Fantasy Camp that I attended in Vero Beach. It includes signatures of the late Duke Snider (in the sweet spot), Ralph Branca, Carl Erskine, the late Clem Labine, Maury Wills, Tommy Davis, Reggie Smith, Roger Craig, Rick Monday, Steve Yeager, Burt Hooton and Dave Wallace.

          • KT

            Very Nice…Maury signed a ball for us in the sweet spot on 6/27 this year…Got Steve this spring at Camelback

      • KT

        The one next to it is signed by the whole 1978 team (Tommy’s signature is displayed)

  9. scooplew

    Phillies-DBacks still tied, 7-7, entering the 17th inning.

  10. In the background of Jon’s collection: Jordan? Who he? Did Ricky Jordan play for us once?

    • KT

      Brian Jordan…use to play for the Braves before us

      • Oh yeah. Looked it up. 2002-2003, came over from the Braves with others for Sheffield. That was ten years ago! Yikes!

  11. Bob_in_Vegas

    I don’t have any of the great signed balls as described here, but I have a few treasured baseball autographs . . .

    Back in the days of NBC’s Game of the Week, I heard that Dizzy Dean was going to do the next game and I wrote to him in care of that stadium. He sent me a signed index card. Somehow I got an address for Sandy Koufax and he graciously signed several index cards (including a “To Bob”). Vegas used to be filled with celebrity golf tournaments, where you could easily walk up and get an autograph. That’s where I met Joltin’ Joe and got his autograph. (I know, he’s a Yankee — but he’s DiMaggio!)

    • KT

      Still a nice collection…Joltin Joe great…beside the 78 ball I didn’t start getting signatures until 2010

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Made up for lost time!

        • KT

          Yea 20 years military…moved out of LA in ’83 and never tried to get them as a kid (don’t know why)

  12. scooplew

    Outfielder Casper Wells now pitching for the Phillies as the 18th inning starts in a 7-7 tie with the DBacks. Wells was 0-for-7 in 17 innings in right field.

  13. KT

    Rollins had a chance and couldn’t find the handle

  14. KT

    Had to look up # 3…Ceasar Isturis

  15. scooplew

    After getting the first two outs in the top of the 18th, Phillies outfielder turned emergency pitcher Casper Wells then went walk, double, walk, single, walk and single before being relieved by fellow outfielder John McDonald, who was making his professional pitching debut in a career than began in 1996. Wells returned to right field. McDonald gave up two singles before striking out Tuffy Goesewisch, who made two of the three outs in the inning for the D’Backs, both against outfielders.

  16. scooplew

    Dbacks won 12-7. Here’s an oddity: Tuffy Gosewisch made the first out for Arizona in the top of the 18th by lining out to Phillies left fielder John McDonald, and then made the third out when the same John McDonald, who was now pitching, struck him out. I wonder if something like that has ever happened before.

    • btimmer

      My guess would be yes, and it was probably not uncommon in the 19th Century when there were fewer players on the roster and pitchers and fielders would change places mid-inning. In the 20th Century, probably would be a rare occurrence.

  17. btimmer

    Phillies are supposed to be bringing Roy Halladay off the DL to start Sunday. Because they ran out of pitchers.

  18. Anthony90405

    Ninth inning: Ellsbury touches first base and heads towards the dugout thinking its the third out.
    Hanley tags him, causing the third out. But since he is technically in foul territory, isn’t he allowed to walk back to first base?

    • btimmer

      If you overrun first base, you have to go directly back to it. If you start wandering away, it’s assumed that you’ve given yourself up.

    • btimmer

      Rule 7.08(j)

      A batter is out:

      (j) He fails to return at once to first base after overrunning or oversliding that base. If
      he attempts to run to second he is out when tagged. If, after overrunning or oversliding first base he starts toward the dugout, or toward his position, and fails to
      return to first base at once, he is out, on appeal, when he or the base is tagged;

      Rule 7.08(j) Comment: Runner who touches first base in overrunning and is declared safe by
      the umpire has, within the intent of Rule 4.09(a) “reached first base” and any run which scores on sucha play counts, even though the runner subsequently becomes the third out for failure to return “at once,” as covered in Rule 7.08(j).

  19. ASW1

    Ha! I had never heard this one before : from this mornings’ Times about the ’88 team :

    “Brian Holton, a Dodgers relief pitcher who had a career-best 1.70 earned-run average in 45 appearances that season, often spoke of being inspired by the exhortations of one man.

    Whenever Holton would run past Gibson in left field on his way from the bullpen to the mound, Gibson would shout, “You better not give up any runs!”

    That’s awesome.,0,5026163.htmlstory#axzz2czuK8GRy

  20. Bumsrap

    Pederson and Seager should be playing with the Dodgers in 2015. Van Slyke should with the team all of 2014. How might the Dodgers phase in this youth.

    I would like to see Pederson, Kemp, and Puig in the outfield with Van Slyke as the 4th outfielder. And, I would like to see Ramirez’ speed playing first.

    2015 lineup

    OF Puig

    OF Pederson

    OF Kemp

    1B Ramirez

    3B Player received for Gonzales

    SS Seager

    C Ellis

    2B Player received for Crawford

    • I don’t understand 3B and 2B. The Dodgers are not going to be able to trade Gonzalez and Crawford for infield starters.

      Also don’t see Seager going from A ball to MLB shortstop in 18 months, even assuming he stays at SS.

      • Bumsrap

        I usually don’t try to do anything more than identify key players in trade ideas as opposed to trying to come up with all the players that might make a trade mutually beneficial to both teams. I also don’t try to determine how much salary the Dodgers might have to keep for players they might trade.

        I am hoping Seager will move up to AA in the second half of 2014 and MLB as soon as July 2015. I admit that would be rushing things. If things don’t move that quickly for him, I would want to keep Gonzalez another year and re-sign Ramirez with the understanding that he would move to first instead of third when Seager came up.

  21. ASW1

    Wow, I’d never heard this either , about Scioscia’s HR off Gooden :

    “Scioscia’s two-run home run tied the score. It was one of only two homers he ever hit off of Gooden, against whom he hit .191 in his career.

    “What are the odds of that happening?” says Lasorda, still mystified today. “How many people believed that he would hit that home run?”

    In the Shea Stadium stands, one person was certain. When Scioscia came to the plate, Ellen Phillips was saying a prayer to her deceased friend, Scioscia’s mother, Florence. She then turned to her husband, Scioscia’s agent, Richie Phillips, and said, “Florence just told me Mike is going to hit a home run.”

    On the next pitch, Scioscia homered. Several years later, telling the story, Richie Phillips wept.”

    Gave me chills.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Me to — high on the chillometer.

    • dalegribel

      I’ve never heard the story before (great one), but I’ve never forgotten that without Scioscia’s heroics, then would not have been Gibson’s.

  22. The starting pitcher in the Phillies-Arizona game for Philly was former Dodger prospect Ethan Martin, who kicked things off by allowing six baserunners in 2/3 of an inning and then getting the hook.


    Adam Eaton was the first #mlb player to get 10 AB in a game since Willy Taveras in 2008 and third this century. John Shelby, many will recall, was the last Dodger to do it, going 0 for 10.

  24. KT

    I do not like waiting all day on Sunday to watch the Dodgers play

  25. btimmer

    Roy Halladay returns from the DL and gives up a triple to the first batter he faces: Tony Campana of Arizona.

  26. btimmer

    And it’s 1-0 Arizona. The Phillies lineup is patchwork. Utley is resting. Brown is hurt. Ruiz caught all 18 innings. Kratz is the cleanup man.

  27. btimmer

    Doesn’t look like Patrick Corbin went to bed early last night. He’s already given up a run to the Phillies, who have the bases loaded with one out.

  28. btimmer

    4-1 Phillies in the 2nd.

  29. btimmer

    Phillies lead AZ 7-2 in the 6th. Patrick Corbin taking one for the team for AZ.

  30. We see you, Chula Vista.

  31. KT

    Dodgers lineup:
    Crawford LF
    Punto 2B
    Gonzalez 1B
    Ramirez SS
    Puig RF
    Schumaker CF
    A Ellis C
    Uribe 3B
    Capuano P

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      After that marathon game last night and today’s loss, AZ will probably be reeling if the Dodgers can shave another game off that magic # tonight.
      Wouldn’t it be nice (no pun on our newest reliever) to get it at or below 22 when it’s #22’s turn to take the hill again?!

  32. KT

    EastLake!! 4-3

  33. RBI

    Anxious for the game to start. Go Blue.

  34. Bob_in_Vegas

    Go, Chula Vista — comeback time!
    Sorry if this is a repeat, but has anyone played for teams which won the Little League, college, and MLB World Series?

  35. Jason

    I’ve got a Nomo like the Mondesi. Mine still have the hats. Also, the Casey Blake looked like Matt Kemp at first glance…

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