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Kershaw CLXXVIII: Kershawns of Navarone

Dodgers at Rockies, 1:10 p.m.


NL playoff possibilities a jumble-aya


The Days of Puig and Ramirez take a day off


  1. KT

    Go BLUE!!!!

  2. I hope he and his teammates do better than the original guns did. The final scenes of that film were pretty memorable.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      I hope the batters bring out the big guns . . . and not the cap guns they seem to sport when Kersh is pitching.

  3. KT

    Bill Plunkett ‏@billplunkettocr2m
    Mattingly was asked today how gung ho he might be about chasing best record in NL after #Dodgers clinch NL West

  4. btimmer

    Dear Steve Lyons, I think Puig knows you can’t run over a fielder.

  5. What did Gonzalez do? Never mind, Gameday finally refreshed.

    • ASW1

      Hit a bouncer to the 2nd baseman – Puig ran into the 2nd baseman trying to field the ball – called out. Gonzo safe at 1st. Crawford had to return to 3rd.

    • KT

      high chopper to 2nd, Puig while making sure the ball didn’t hit him bumped knees with the 2nd baseman…CC sent back to 3rd, Puig called out..Gonzo stays on 1st

  6. KT

    got a break on the bad throw to 2nd…Come on MEllis

  7. Boy, trying to puzzle out what happened from Gameday. . . Ethier bounced to first and the 1B guy tried to get a double play and threw the ball away?

  8. And Ellis’s fly ball too shallow for Adrian to score?

  9. ASW1

    An awful lot of stuff happened there for 1 measly run.

  10. One freakin’ run out of all that. Aaaargh!

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Silver Lining Dept.: if this was April, May, or early June, they wouldn’t have scored even THAT run!

      • John_from_Aus

        At least Kershaw has something to work with!

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Sure . . . ‘All I have to do is shut them out in Coors again and guaranteed a win now.’

  11. Bob_in_Vegas

    Get the K or double play!

  12. Bob_in_Vegas

    Kershawful start.

  13. Clayton not looking sharp early, throwing a lot of balls.

  14. John_from_Aus

    an out here would be nice

  15. Bob_in_Vegas

    So far, a laborious Labor Day for the Blue.

  16. If they had gotten an out earlier could be inning over.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Or a hit earlier for them and they’d have the lead.

  17. Bob_in_Vegas

    The ERA is ballooning.

  18. ASW1

    Rockies 6-4 last 10 and 40-29 at home.

  19. Bob_in_Vegas

    Frustrating inning from the plate AND the mound.

    • ASW1

      More so from the plate – Rockies always tough in Coors Field – when you are given breaks like the Rockies gave in the 1st, you really have to take advantage of them.

  20. Clayton rarely gives up 4 hits and 3 runs in an entire game.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Coors Field is traditionally bad for him, I believe, in spite of his shutout this year.

  21. ASW1

    Let’s get those runs back!

  22. ASW1


  23. This is ugly so far.

  24. btimmer

    Reports on Twitter state that the CBS-Time Warner War has been settled. Programming should start up again soon for those of you with TW.

  25. btimmer

    The Dodgers game should show up on KCAL for Time-Warner people at 3 pm.

  26. That’s more like it AJ!

  27. What on earth? AJ stealing?

  28. KT

    Co didn’t have a good look…Did Mellis score before AJ was tagged?

  29. A thought for those between-innings moments regarding the Angels’ name:

    They ought to build a “water feature” in the
    outfield and call it Bedford Falls. Then they could name the team the
    Bedford Falls Angels.

    Hey, what the heck. They’re a Southern Ca. team only 20 or 30 miles from Hollywood, right?

    Originally left as a comment to a post by David Pinto at Baseball Musings which linked to a story about the team’s lease negotiations.

  30. Missed opportunities are gonna kill us.

  31. KT

    Los Angeles Dodgers ‏@Dodgers5m
    With 200 in 2013, Clayton Kershaw becomes the 1st #Dodgers pitcher since Sandy Koufax to record 200+ strikeouts in four consecutive seasons.

  32. KT

    Kershaw now has
    4 straight seasons with 200+ strikeouts. Other Dodgers to accomplish this feat
    are Don Drysdale (1962 to 1965) & Sandy Koufax 6 straight (1961 to 1966).

  33. Hasn’t been pretty but there’s plenty of opportunity to take this game.

  34. KT

    Double DRE!!

  35. KT

    Good Eye AJ!

  36. KT


  37. KT

    Let’s go Clayton…bring them in

  38. Kershaw! Struggles on the mound? No worries he brought his bat!

  39. How’d the third out happen? Gameday failed me.

  40. Thanks, both of you.

  41. ASW1

    For as bad as this game started, Kershaw and Dodgers good at just pluggin’ away – love this team,

  42. Blue-eyed Gal

    Again, I’m wondering how many of our games this year have (a) gotten the scoring started when a pitcher took things into his own hands or (b) a pitcher hit the go-ahead run. I feel like our starting rotation has been setting some kind of record, but that may be short-term bias.

  43. ASW1

    Stoopid channel 9 with no pitch count.

  44. ASW1

    Thanks guys

    • Blue-eyed Gal

      *deep breath*

      Kershaw’s record when the Dodgers score at least 4 runs: 51-0.

      *attempts to calm that nagging ‘is Clayton OK?’ voice in the back of my head*

  45. KT

    Let’s get those two back and Moar guys

  46. So much for “shutdown” innings, at least this time.

  47. KT

    Way to get on Puig!

  48. 2 on, none out. Need runs.

  49. Puig worked for that run.

    • Blue-eyed Gal

      I smile now instead of wincing when I encounter four exclamation marks in social media!!!!

  50. ASW1

    With the way Puig, Crawford, and Ethier are going, Kemp is going to have to be on his game to crack this lineup.

  51. KT

    Magic number poster by Off the Wall on MSTI:

  52. ASW1

    Kershaw done after 81 pitches

  53. ASW1

    Get League out of there

    • ASW1

      Wow – my bad – he looked like he had nothing, but got out of it nicely.

  54. KT

    ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo4m
    Clayton Kershaw allowed a career-high 11 hits today.

  55. ASW1

    Would be nice to get Kershaw a win on the only game he’s given up 5 runs all season.

  56. JJJameson

    Go Blue ponytail holder in Beard.

  57. KT

    good inning Brian…do we temp the fates with another inning?

  58. thescrounger

    Why was Puig removed from the game?

  59. Seems like a good time to get Howell in a game, no?

  60. Belli has been ineffective lately, get him out of there.

  61. John_from_Aus

    Uh oh

  62. ASW1

    WoooooooHoooooooooooo !

  63. Got a bit lucky there. Losing faith in Belli.

    • Bumsrap

      Sinker ball pitcher gets double play. Day game in Colorado pitching experiences.

  64. Gameday slow. Did we get a DP somehow?

  65. KT

    Moar insurance guys

  66. ASW1

    Andre loves Coors Field

  67. Let’s get some runs and give Kenley the day off!

  68. KT

    Los Angeles Dodgers ‏@Dodgers4m
    Andre Ethier becomes first Dodger in franchise history to reach the 30-double mark in seven consecutive seasons — no other Dodger with 6.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      He seems to be much more consistent this year, at least since June. I’ve always remembered him as terribly streaky. This record shows consistency for sure!

  69. ASW1

    Ah, where have you gone Rob Rasmussen ??

  70. Not the best Dodger debut…

  71. ASW1

    Love that Carl is back hammering the ball again.

  72. Bob_in_Vegas

    What a game . . . I left after the first inning, then saw it was 8-5 and by the time I walked home it was 8-7, but now 10-7. Besides being Coors Field, it’s the ’13 Dodgers — never say die!
    Kersh’s terrible performance, records-wise — IS a bummer.
    But let’s get the W and cut that magic # even more!

  73. I wish they’d look at the ground rules for players advancing. If he was at first and had passed second by the time the ball bounces into the stands he ought to be waved in to score, I think.

  74. Forgot the FoxSports1 show “Mission October” featuring the Dodgers is on right now. I’ll have to record a later showing.

  75. John_from_Aus

    Kenley must be good to go, I thought they might rest him

  76. Bob_in_Vegas

    Get the K, KJ!

  77. John_from_Aus

    lucky for the extra lead

  78. KT

    Nice Kenley

  79. Bob_in_Vegas

    uno mas!

  80. Bob_in_Vegas

    Just caught up on the scoring and saw the Kid got two ribbies . . . and they were needed!

  81. Stop the presses! Kenley walked someone!

  82. Bob_in_Vegas

    Shut ’em down!

  83. KT

    Ball Game Dodgers Win!!!! 27 games over .500, Magic Number is 14!!!!

    Kershaw now has 4 straight seasons with 200+ strikeouts. Other Dodgers to accomplish this feat are Don Drysdale (1962 to 1965) & Sandy Koufax 6 straight (1961 to 1966).

    Jansen has 18 consecutive saves and 25 out of 28

    won 23 of last 26 on the road (.885) best road record in MLB 39-27

    won 25 of last 31 gms (.806) in August/Sept., 35-8 since ASB (.814) , 52-13 since 6/22 (.800), 59-23 since Puig (.720)

    12.5 gms ahead of the Dbags, 2nd largest lead by a division leader

    Dodgers 2 games back of the Barves for MLB’s best record

    Last 21 series 16-1-4, going for series win tomorrow

  84. Today will be remembered as the day that Clayton and Kenley were both human, and the Dodgers still won.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      good point . . . personal records are one thing, but they have proven they are a TEAM!

    • John_from_Aus

      yes, but I sure hope that Puig is ok. If there is any doubt platoon Schu/Hairston/ (Kemp) :) until he returns

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        yes, that was bad news just recently heard

        • John_from_Aus

          I would rather he goes on ice until the playoffs rather than take any risks

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            another reason to root for ANYONE playing AZ, so the West can be won quickly and worry about getting healthy instead of getting wins.

          • ASW1

            I agree about not rushing him back – knees are tricky – but he has healed up from dings real quick so far – I’m sure team will make sure he understands it’s more important for him to rest up for the playoffs rather than play on even a slightly tweaked knee.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            Puig heals quickly . . . more proof he’s superhuman!

  85. KT

    From MSTI:Off The Wall 79 just now

  86. KT

    Dodgers are in 2nd place in the NL standings.

    2 games behind the Barves….We got this…Go BLUE!!!!

  87. Kershaw and Greinke each with 14 wins, Ryu with 13. Been a long time since the Dodgers have had three guys that consistent.

  88. KT

    Run differential for the Dodgers:

    295-169 since 6/22

    105 – 72 6/22 – ASB

    199 – 101 second half

  89. ASW1

    10-8 ?
    Still Coors Field
    Humidor? What humidor?

  90. KT

    Sorry wasn’t updated for our score…wouldn’t let me edit not Re-post

  91. Bob_in_Vegas

    The Vegas postgame show just had a good point: the headlines could say Kersh struggled (and he did) but it should also point out that the offense picked him up (which they usually don’t . . . AND he was huge in helping that happen!)

  92. KT

    From MSTI: NeDieterich 6 minutes ago

  93. KT

    So Edinson is starting Wednesday and Puig is sitting tomorrw

  94. KT

    Eric Stephen @truebluela

    Dodgers are the first team since the 1954 Indians to have a 52-13 stretch

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Let’s hope the year ends better for the Dodgers than the ’54 Indians (swept in WS by the Giants)!

  95. KT

    Bill Plunkett ‏@billplunkettocr9m
    #Dodgers will start Ryu, Greinke, Kershaw in Cincinnati this weekend. Capuano moves back in rotation to DBacks series in LA next week

  96. KT

    Eric Stephen ‏@truebluela4m
    Rotation shuffle means Sunday night in Cincinnati is an ESPN Sunday Night Baseball rematch between Kershaw & Homer Bailey (Gonzalez 2 HR)

  97. KT

    Pictures from Yesterday’s game:

    Jon SooHoo ‏@JonSooHoo10h

    9/1/13-Something Current-LAD-2,SD-1 by Juan Ocampo and Jill Weisleder/LA Dodgers

  98. ASW1

    Not sure how much Coors Field will help in Edinson Volquez’s quest to boost his confidence.

  99. Bumsrap

    Please Matingley, do not say anything about Puig’s knee especially do not say there is nothing serious and he shouldn’t miss any games.

  100. KT

    Saw this on MSTI and thought it was a very interesting topic…any suggestions?

    NeDieterich 31 minutes ago

    Any guesses for the last 3 spots? 11th pitcher? 3rd catcher?

    • ASW1

      If I had to choose from the possibles right now, at this instant I’d take Withrow, Hairston, and SVS – but still a lot of time for others to prove they belong.

      • Bob_Hendley

        I’d pick the same, but guessing that Ned would want Young over SVS, unless he is completely dismal. Can’t see putting a third catcher on the roster. If there is an injury you can always call up Butera.

      • KT

        Could we limit ourselves with having Dee as a pinch running specialist…just a thought

        • ASW1

          Well, it’s an option, but I don’t think Dee’s speed alone makes up for Hairston’s versatility and better offense and defense. Now, if Dee gets some gametime and all of a sudden starts hitting and If Young bombs and SVS tanks in their opportunities the rest of the way? Maybe, but it’s a longshot.

    • dalegribel

      Kind of feel bad for him, but I don’t see Cappy on the playoff roster, which yields four spots. My guess: Young, League or Marmol, Hairston, Van Slyke

      • ASW1

        Cap would be a good guy to have in the unlikely scenario where one of the starters gets shelled early and they need a long reliever to eat up multiple innings.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Cappy and League have both been erratic . . . but Cappy’s brilliance is over many more innings. Altho he probably can’t warm up as fast as League, my choice between the two is for “the other” CC.

  101. KT

    Los Angeles Dodgers ‏@Dodgers1h
    RECAP: Andre Ethier homers, smacks two doubles as #Dodgers topple Rockies, 10-8.

  102. WinnipegDave

    In 1963, Koufax had a 1.88 era for the season. This included 3 games where he gave up 5 earned runs (5 and 1/3 innings, 4 and 2/3 innings, and 1/3 of an inning pitched in those games). He also had a game where he gave up 6 earned runs in 4 and 2/3 innings. He also had another game where he only lasted a 1/3 of an inning and gave up 4 earned runs.

    On the other side of the ledger, he did have 11 shutouts.
    Point being, Kershaw is still an amazing pitcher – even given his last couple of outings. Because even the great ones, during their finest seasons, can have a bad performance or two.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Thanks for putting it in perspective . . .if it could happen to 32, no worries about 22. . . . The problem for me is the expectation of greatness with each outing — and disappointment when it’s not. (And also pulling for the Kid to get the ERA title and additional honors again.)

      • WinnipegDave

        I agree completely. I recall several days ago, someone commenting here and asking why we should feel any sense of frustration around the Dodgers’ anomaly of scoring less runs in Kershaw’s starts as opposed to Greinke or Ryu or Nolasco. I know I do wish to see Kershaw succeed in a way that the others don’t. This is likely illogical and unreasonable, but I definitely fall into that group like yourself who expect and long for greatness with each outing. It was the same several years ago, when rooting on Kemp towards a 40/40 season – if someone was to hit a home run, and all else remained equal, by golly – I wanted it to be Kemp. So it goes with Kershaw.

        • WinnipegDave

          Plus, Jon doesn’t have Roman Numerals and special blog headings for any other member of the Dodgers. Just Kershaw.

          Someday perhaps, I and others will have similar feelings and emotions around Julio Urias…

  103. TAFKA_Gagne55

    Has any team ever lost a 12.5 game lead with 25 games to go? I know the 1995 Angels and 1951 Dodgers blew larger leads than that, but by this point in the season, they both had had the leads cut down to about 6 games.

  104. Sam Sokol

    Looking forward to Force 10 from Kershawverone!

  105. foul tip

    Can’t say for sure, but doubtful any team to blow this big a very big late season lead had pitching the caliber of this year’s Dodgers.

    Kershaw, Greinke, Ryu, Nolasco would ALL have to crap out at the same time over at least a couple starts instead of any being stoppers. Also, the stellar bullpen absolutely would have to implode pretty completely, and the offense revert to early season levels, or probably worse.

    Plus, the Snakes–the only one with an outside prayer of a chance–would have to play at something like the Dodgers recent blistering pace WHILE everything referenced above ALSO happens. Any evidence they can do that?

    Is it possible for the Dodgers to lose? Yes. For those who just have to have something to worry about.

    But then some folks may worry that killer tornadoes can carry killer sharks inland to wreak havoc.
    Which is more likely?

  106. No start in Colorado should be used to evaluate the status of any pitcher.

    • ASW1

      Agreed – In his career Volquez is 1-4 with an 8.39 ERA in seven career starts in Denver, including allowing 21 runs on 29 hits and six walks in 12⅔ innings in three starts this season.

  107. KT

    Mike Petreillo has officially called it over already:

    Glad he finally joined the crowd ^_^

  108. KT

    Dodgers Lineup:
    Crawford LF
    Punto SS
    Gonzalez 1B
    Young 3B
    Ethier CF
    M. Ellis 2B
    Schumaker RF
    Federowicz C
    Nolasco P

  109. First game without Puig and Ramirez starting since June 12.

  110. WBBsAs

    Even in highly successful Dodger seasons, I usually have moments of trepidation, but those will have to wait until October now.

  111. Bob_in_Vegas

    For What It’s Worth Dept: has LA #1 in their power rankings — Braves #2.
    Nice to note that they once had the Blue as #25 . . . another (more subjective) mountain that wasn’t high enough for the Dodgers.

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