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August 21 game chat

Dodgers at Marlins, 4:10 p.m.


‘And you get a benching! And you get a benching!”


Kershaw CLXXVI: Kershawrks and Recreation


  1. KT

    Go BLUE!!!!

  2. (LATd) The Giants sure are giving the Red Sox a tough challenge. Down 12-1 today they will lose 2 out of 3 by a combined score of (at this writing) 21-4. Then it appears BoSox have tomorrow off while Dodgers have to play early game and then travel across country afterwards. But at least Friday’s game is an evening one so hopefully it won’t matter much.

    • btimmer

      The Red Sox had to play a game on Sunday that started at 8 and took over 4 hours and then had to fly cross country for a Monday night game.

  3. And go Dodgers! Was glad to see Hanley finally get off the mat vs his old club yesterday; more of that por favor. Then he can make his other old club miserable on the weekend. ;)

  4. I always liked young Eo, but here’s to hoping the bats start off hot from the get go.

  5. KT

    So Jayson Heyward ended up with a broken jaws from being hit by the pitch earlier

  6. KT

    For those of you who haven’t seen Heyward getting HBP:

  7. KT

    Way to get on CC!!

  8. KT

    Nice play Hanley!

  9. Great play by HanRam, almost worthy of the Collins-gasm.

  10. Yikes. Stanton is…good. He crushes the Dodgers, too. Maybe just don’t throw strikes to him?

  11. KT

    ok let’s get that one back

  12. Eo has been fooling almost no one but all those have been hit to someone. Could be one of those games, or he could be living on a shaky tree branch.

  13. KT

    Alright don’t let Evoildi hurt you

  14. KT

    Ok now for some runs

  15. KT

    MLB ‏@MLB2m
    Mr. 4000:

  16. KT

    4-0 reds

  17. scooplew

    Cincinnati 4, Arizona 0, after two innings

  18. KT

    1-0 Pods

  19. Zack Greinke in 0-for-6 slump, batting average falling from .405 to .349 since August 5.

  20. KT

    The florida feed is showing Carlos Quentin and Kennedy incidences

  21. NoahUCLA

    Stanton would be the MVP if he played against us all year. And Ryu and Greinke are not pushovers either.

  22. KT

    Let’s go Yasiel

  23. foul tip

    Gameday says Eovaldi consistently high 90s, a few 99s. Did he do that as a Dodger?

      • mike_tink

        from an article that was on tbla before Monday’s game:
        Nathan Eovaldi has significantly improved since his time in Los Angeles.
        The biggest change has nothing to do with his strikeouts and walks, but
        it does have roots deeper than that. Eovaldi’s major change is in his
        fastball, which has gotten much faster.
        He is now averaging 96 mph on the gun, easily touching 98-99 mph as a
        starter in the early innings and carrying that weight into sixth and
        seventh. Among starting pitchers with at least 50 innings this year,
        Eovaldi leads all players in fastball velocity. This is an extremely
        positive development and raises his ceiling significantly.

        • foul tip

          For some reason, that reminds me of a somewhat jaded DTer from about the time Eovaldi first came up. DTer seemed rather surprised by his arm and observed, “he doesn’t suck.”

          Never know in baseball. He might wear blue again one day.

  24. KT

    hit or error?

  25. Bob_in_Vegas

    I’m definitely apolitical, equal opportunity, rooting for Blue & Red(s)!

  26. Bob_in_Vegas

    Rally time!

  27. Bob_in_Vegas


  28. KT


  29. Bob_in_Vegas

    More, please!

  30. NoahUCLA

    Now that we got a hit, what is the rule regarding mentioning no hitters by opposing pitvhers against the Dodgers while they are taking place? Is that a rule 9 vio?

  31. Bob_in_Vegas

    Increase Reds, increase Blue!

  32. Bob_in_Vegas


  33. Just keep bringin’ em in.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Listen to Dorry the fish . . . Just keep hitting, just keep hitting . . .

  34. KT

    Moar Runs!

  35. Bob_in_Vegas

    The Marlins are supposed to find ways to lose . . . don’t get in their way!

  36. John_from_Aus

    Here we come!

  37. Nice! Whee!

    I love how Collins and Lyons were stupidly chattering about how Eovaldi was nails and pitching a no hitter for first *3* innings (ignoring fact that Dodgers ripped some good contact in there but they were outs). But hey, thanks for the jinx!

  38. KT

    7-0 reds

  39. KT

    2-0 Pods

  40. Bob_in_Vegas

    Would’ve been nice to get that runner in from 3rd, but grateful for the 3!

  41. Bob_in_Vegas

    OK, Zack, you have a lead — now be Zackian.

  42. Bob_in_Vegas

    Zack showing Kersh he can do that as well!

  43. Looks like his hand actually got to the base before the tag, but great pick from Zack none the less.

  44. Bob_in_Vegas


  45. Bob_in_Vegas

    Zack really is slumping at the plate . . . lucky he’s good with the glove.

  46. scooplew

    Apropos of the Marlin at the stadium in Miami, at Seals Stadium, which was the home of the San Francisco Giants in 1958 and 1959 and of minor league baseball for nearly 30 years before that, a live seal was sometimes kept underneath the grandstand in a water tank.

  47. scooplew

    Around the turn of this century, Koyie Hill was considered by some to the Dodgers catcher of the future.

    • mike_tink

      what was the sum of those some, less than double figures I would think

  48. John_from_Aus

    Zac’s back in the groove

  49. Bob_in_Vegas


  50. ToyCannon

    Cranky Greinke gets ’em in order.

  51. ASW1

    Nice to get home from work and have the Dodgers already up 3-1. Got in the car for the ride home just in time to hear them rally for 3 runs.

  52. ToyCannon

    Let’s go Jer-Dog

  53. scooplew

    Greinke’s ERA has now dipped below 3 for the first time since mid-May, joining Kershaw, Ryu, Nolasco (as a Dodger), Jansen, Howell, Withrow, Rodriguez, Dominguez (DL), Fife (now in the minors) and, off course, Schumaker (0.00).

  54. KT

    8-0 reds, 2-0 pods

  55. KT

    Time to get Moar Runs

  56. ToyCannon

    did u see that in the black body suit?

  57. ASW1

    I like how Prime Ticket keeps a running pitch count during the telecasts – Channel 9 behind the times. Greinke sure lookin’ Good.

    • btimmer

      No money in it for Channel 9 to invest in fancy graphics. They aren’t showing the Dodgers next year.

      • ASW1

        Ah didn’t know that – you know who is? Dodgers own network starting up next season?

  58. KT

    80 pitches for greinke so far

  59. Bob_in_Vegas

    Zack the Hitter was nice while it lasted . . . sure glad we’ve got Zack the Pitcher!

  60. Bob_in_Vegas

    D-backs coming back, but Reds still have lead. ‘Just take care of your own game’ when in 1st.

  61. KT

    way to get on CC!

  62. Bob_in_Vegas

    It’s Puig Time!

  63. scooplew

    Puig is due.

  64. Bob_in_Vegas

    Steiner quoted an awfully poor RISP BA for Yasiel . . . I’m surprised, especially with his meteoric start.

    • mike_tink

      271/413/479/892 which is an sOPS+ of 147. His sOPS+ overall is 172

  65. ToyCannon

    Can’t wait for my Rick Monday “Saves Old Glory” Bobblehead next week.

  66. KT

    Fla feed keeps showing puig slowing down a few steps before reaching 1st on that attempted DP

    • ToyCannon

      My avatar is @ Mosquito Lagoon by Space Center. You go FLA!

  67. Bob_in_Vegas

    Time for two!

  68. Bob_in_Vegas

    6 more outs!
    In my effort to encourage the Blue hitters — and entertain my dog — I’m off to the park . . . let’s get some runs!

    • What variety of dog is this walking beast?

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Poodle-bichon, they say . . . got him from the shelter.

        • Good for you. I got what they called a pointer (nonsense; I’ve owned a pointer) but what the vet calls an Aussie cattle dog (or blue heeler) from a shelter back in February.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            Awww! . . . . For me, the shelter’s the only way to go.

          • John_from_Aus

            Great breed, well mannered (just like the rest of us Aussies) :)

          • Abby is. Not so sure about some of your countrymen. I was on Kwajalein once when a planeload of the RAAF arrived for some mission or another. They had a pallet full of Castleman’s 4X beer to help their lubrication. I had two cans of that about 12:00 noon and went off to my swing shift; at 6:00pm I still had a mild buzz from that stuff.

  69. Gameday’s automated Scout function is hilarious. Before Hechevarria’s AB it told me Greinke had tons left because his avg speed on the fastball was still 91. After he lined out it told me Greinke might be running out of gas because he’d had a low of 82 and a high of 91 on his fastball.

  70. KT

    Pods win, now ahead of Bucs again for the # 2 seed

  71. KT

    From MSTI: StealingSaenz just now

  72. KT

    Good steal Hanley!

  73. KT

    Good eye Dre!

  74. KT

    JH. Jr sac!

  75. ASW1

    Small ball for an insurance run!

  76. mike_tink

    “Day game tomorrow,” said Mattingly, who tries to avoid playing his
    30-something veterans in back-to-back night game/day games. “With
    [Clayton] Kershaw tomorrow, a left-hander, I want Juan in there, and I
    can’t push him to go night and day.”
    Why Uribe didn’t start tonight.

    • scooplew


    • Bob_Hendley

      Lyons not doing his homework says it was because of the tough matchup (Uribear can’t catch up with the fast ones anymore).

  77. ASW1

    Slappy McPopup Pierre!

  78. KT

    4 to go good play CC!

  79. ASW1

    Greinke pitch count?

  80. btimmer

    I hear this pitcher for the Marlins gets a lot of leverage on his pitches.

  81. scooplew

    Arquimedes Euclides Caminero. What a great name.

    • Though the spelling is different, I always liked the name Archimedes. Though instead of the Greek mathematician I always think of the owl from the Sword in the Stone.

  82. KT

    8-5 reds with Az threatening bases loaded

  83. KT

    Good Game Greinke

  84. mike_tink

    MLBTR highly recommended an article on last year’s trade with Boston. I didn’t think it was worth reading but this is how it ended:
    “I didn’t say I wasn’t a good negotiator,” Cherington said. “I said there are other people in the office who are better than me. Who are more naturally inclined that way. Everyone has different strengths. I
    can do it, I don’t mind doing it. I can do it plenty. I think if I was honest in myself in lining up myself in lining up my strengths, that wouldn’t be at the top for me.”

    A lot of people will think differently this weekend when they see Adrian Gonzalez in Dodger Blue.

    Put it up in the Dodgers’ clubhouse

  85. btimmer

    Archimedes and Euclid were likely not contemporaries. However, not much is known about Euclid’s life. Perhaps Euclid is leading a parallel life to one of us. And it will be a parallel life that WILL NEVER INTERSECT with ours.

    • scooplew

      You know all the angles.

      • btimmer

        The Pythagorean theorem was not developed by Pythagoras. Perhaps because we aren’t sure Pythagoras was a real person. But he did have devotees called Pythagoreans who wanted to live in a math-based world.

        • ASW1

          Ever read the book, “The Man Who Loved Only Numbers” ? – the story of Paul Erdos – incredible story and very interesting read.

        • mike_tink

          your first sentence does too far in its absolute claim, same for the last phrase in the last sentence

  86. KT

    Alright 1-2-3 inning

  87. KT

    Los Angeles Dodgers ‏@Dodgers4m
    Aces on Aces. #whiff
    Clayton Kershaw: 1.80 ERA
    Zack Greinke: 2.91 ERA
    Hyun-Jin Ryu: 2.95 ERA

  88. Kenley’s worked an awful lot, considering it’s only August. I worry.

  89. foul tip

    Gameday: “Juan Pierre grounds out, 2B to 1B.”

    Recall the scene in Crocodile Dundee in the NY hotel room where Dundee, fresh in from the Outback, turns on the first telly he’s seen in years?. Reruns of I Love Lucy are on.

    “Yeah. That’s what I saw,” he says.

    • John_from_Aus

      You know we are not all like that :)

      • Bob_Hendley

        You don’t carry a 10 inch toothpick!?

      • foul tip

        I had kinda thought of you as maybe like the humongous bartender. ;-])

        Wasn’t his name Donk?

  90. Bob_in_Vegas

    It worked again — park trek nets a run! C’mon, Kenley — get the K!

  91. foul tip

    Gameday shows he just walked on strike 3. Those who have eyes agree?

    • KT

      strike 3

      • Bob_Hendley

        Close and now the ump is getting squeezy.

      • mike_tink


        • KT

          yea I knew you would mike…he asked for my opinion and I gave it…I didn’t ask for yours…reply to Foul tip with your opinion

        • foul tip

          I’m on the old Classic Gameday. It appeared there to split the bottom line of the strike zone box. So, ?

          • ASW1

            It could have gone either way, but for a last strike of the game? Punch his arse out if he ain’t swingin’!

          • mike_tink

            so am I on the classic; the circle of the ball #7 is a tiny bit out of the strike zone on the bottom; that is low

          • foul tip

            Whatever. The ump’s opinion is the only one that counts.

    • ASW1


    • mike_tink

      Gameday shows it low and I thought it low when I saw the pitch

  92. KT

    Ball Game Dodgers Win!!!! Still Streaking!!!!

    22 games over .500

    won 21 of last 24 on the road (.875), best road record in NL 37-27

    won 17 of last 20 gms (.850), 27-5 since ASB (.844) , 44-10 since 6/22 (.815),

    8 gms ahead of the Dbags, 2nd largest lead by a division leader

    #2 seed, 3 gms back of the #1 seed

    18 straight series win or tie 13-0-5, going for series win tomorrow

  93. Bob_Hendley


  94. ASW1

    Ethier has impressed me with his CF play – I didn’t think he’d do as good as he has – good for him.

  95. Bob_in_Vegas

    Another series not lost and hoping to pick up a game on AZ.

  96. Bob_in_Vegas

    I’m agreeing with what I heard or read earlier — that this is Ethier’s best year for all-around contribution to the team . . . he’s been consistent at the plate since June (“consistent” was never a word used with Andre before) and he’s been a solid replacement in CF for Matt.

    • Bob_Hendley

      I have always regarded him as streaky, though over his career he appears to be fairly consistent month-to-month (but don’t know the underlying variation)

    • mike_tink

      His high WAR was last year (this at b-r) can’t see why it is so much higher than this year though

  97. KT

    Dodgers PR ‏@DodgersPR1m
    LA is unbeaten in its last 18 series. #Dodgers look to make it 14-0-4 with @ClaytonKersh22 on the hump tomorrow at 9:40am. #GettingSeries

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Silver Lining: they get to travel cross-country fairly early (knock wood) . . . and hopefully it’s a very happy flight!

  98. Bob_in_Vegas

    Eovaldi showed we should miss him . . . but darn glad Hanley’s a Dodger!

    • ASW1

      Feel the same way – Steiner/Monday were saying he was hitting 100 MPH on his FB – but the way Hanley’s been playing, still glad the trade was made.

  99. ASW1

    Now that the game is over, for those who enjoy numbers and Mathematics like myself, here is a snippet of Erdos’ life from the book “The Man Who Loved Only Numbers” :

    “Oliver Sacks writes of Erdös: “A mathematical genius of the first order, Paul Erdös was totally obsessed with his subject–he thought and wrote mathematics for nineteen hours a day until the day he died. He traveled constantly, living out of a plastic bag, and had no interest in food, sex, companionship, art–all that is usually indispensable to a human life.”

    Dude was a trip…

  100. btimmer

    D-Backs have pulled to within 8-7 and have the tying run on 2nd. Chapman trying for a 2-inning save after Broxton left with an injury.

  101. KT

    Dodgers PR ‏@DodgersPR4m
    Greinke: “@AJEllis17 is probably the best pitch-caller I’ve had, it’s like having a pitching coach back there.” #Dodgers

  102. KT

    Los Angeles Dodgers ‏@Dodgers8m
    All Andre Ethier ever wanted was to be a center fielder in the big leagues. We’ll allow it:

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      That was a nice postgame moment.

      • KT

        I like his interviews

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Wasn’t so long ago we were all sure he was on the trading block. Besides ups and downs for the team as a whole, this has been a season of professional redemption for several individuals.

  103. KT

    Los Angeles Dodgers ‏@Dodgers10m
    RECAP: Greinke tosses 8 solid innings in #Dodgers 4-1 win over Marlins.

  104. Bob_in_Vegas

    Reds score! 9-7, still hitting

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      That’s what I love about MLB Audio — Dodgers done, who else can I listen to? It really came into play the last game of the 2011 season, with the crazy finishes.

  105. Bob_in_Vegas

    Cincy has bases loaded, 2 outs in the bottom of the 8th, with their best hitter with the bags filled coming up.

  106. Bob_in_Vegas

    Infield single, 10-7!

  107. KT

    Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler21m
    The Dodgers need to bench Yasiel Puig to teach him a lesson! (What 29 teams hope the Dodgers think.)

  108. KT

    ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo3m
    Zack Greinke: 1.41 ERA since July 8

    Clayton Kershaw: 1.56 ERA since July 8

  109. Bob_in_Vegas

    Reds retired — they need three outs to shut down AZ. When they were down 8-0 AND saw the Dodgers winning, they didn’t give up and made this a nail-biter (at least until the bottom of the 8th). That’s why I say focus on winning the division first if there’s any question who to root for. As someone else posted, I don’t like the idea of Gibby closing in.

  110. Bob_in_Vegas

    Reds issue 4-pitch walk to first AZ batter in the 9th. C’mon, Cincy!

  111. Bob_in_Vegas

    Single for AZ . . . tying run to plate, no outs. Sounds like Dodgers’ May bullpen.

  112. Bob_in_Vegas

    Infield fly rule — 1 out. 2 more to return LA to 8 1/2 GA.

  113. KT

    Run differential for the Dodgers:

    252-150 since 6/22

    105 – 72 1st half

    147 – 78 second half

  114. KT

    Dodgers are in 2nd place in the NL standings.

    Ahead of the Bucs because of head to head.

    3 games behind the Barves….very obtainable…Go BLUE!!!!

  115. Bob_in_Vegas

    Reds get 2nd out but can’t turn DP. AZ has 1st & 3rd, 2 outs, trailing 10-7.

  116. Bob_in_Vegas

    Reds win! Dodgers back to 8 1/2 GA!

  117. ASW1

    Chula Vista, CA. just won again in the LLWS – Go Cali!

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      With SD’s win along with the Dodgers’, it’s a nice night for SoCal!

    • KT

      I was just about to watch this…wanted to post one last thing…
      Still can watch don’t know final score…local team where my son will play when he grows older

  118. KT

    according to CBS Sports.Not too early for magic number

  119. KT

    SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter4m
    Grant Holman is a 6-foot-4,13-year-old on Chula Vista, CA.
    In LLWS, he has a no-hitter, grand slam & 3-run HR.
    Quite a run, young fella.

  120. KT

    Another nice Dodger day…going for the series win tomorrow…9:40 PDT start time tomorrow…Night all have fun

  121. NoahUCLA

    Great quote from Greinke: “Kershaw is on such another level, if you try to do better than him, you’ll get your feelings hurt.” Well said!!

  122. KT

    Dodgers lineup:
    Crawford LF
    Punto SS
    Gonzalez 1B
    Puig RF
    Ethier CF
    AJ Ellis C
    Schumaker 2B
    Uribe 3B
    Kershaw P

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