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Ted Lilly will start season on DL

Matt Kemp and Ryan Braun at Camelback Ranch today. © Jon SooHoo/Los Angeles Dodgers 2012

Ted Lilly will start the season on the disabled list thanks to a stiff neck, while Chris Capuano will start the Dodgers’ third and seventh games of 2012. J.P. Hoornstra of the Daily News, Tony Jackson of and Eric Stephen of True Blue L.A. have details.

Lilly might make his first start as soon as the Dodgers’ ninth game, April 14. Needing only four starters in their first week, Los Angeles will carry an extra reliever, possibly Josh Lindblom.

Meanwhile, Ramon Troncoso cleared waivers and is headed to Triple-A Albuquerque, reports Ken Gurnick of

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In their 9-4 split-squad loss to the Brewers, Capuano struck out seven in six innings while allowing one run on three baserunners. But Jared Wright allowed three unearned runs in the eighth and Todd Coffey four unearned runs in the ninth.

Andre Ethier continued his insane spring, doubling and homering for four RBI and raising his OPS to 1.373. Mike Petriello of Mike Scioscia’s Tragic Illness has a piece at Fangraphs today in which he explains why he expects Ethier to go on to have a great regular season.

Dylan Hernandez of the Times adds that contract extension talks for Ethier could take place during the season.

There were brushback pitches in today’s game; Jackson gives you the breakdown.

In their other split-squad game, the Dodgers beat the Cubs, 6-3. Dee Gordon tripled in two runs, while Luis Cruz had a pair of hits and RBI.

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Jamie Moyer will start 2012 in the Colorado Rockies rotation. Rob Neyer comments at Baseball Nation:

So this is really going to happen. Barring a terribly disappointing injury in the next few days, Jamie Moyer will soon become the second-oldest man to start a game in Major League Baseball’s long history, and the oldest to start more than once.

In 1965, Satchel Paige started one game for the Kansas City Athletics. He was 58 years old, and pitched three scoreless innings against the Boston Red Sox. But that was obviously a stunt; it was Paige’s first appearance in the majors since 1953, and would be his last.

Aside from Paige, the oldest major-league starter was Phil Niekro, 48 when he made 26 starts in 1987.

Satchel Paige was a performer; Phil Niekro was a knuckleballer. Meanwhile, Jamie Moyer is just another (relatively) conventional pitcher, except that he’s 49 years old and has officially earned a spot in the Colorado Rockies‘ pitching rotation. …

Fun as that is, I continue to be amazed by projections that find the Rockies will be dramatically better than the Dodgers in 2012.

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  • San Francisco placed two starting pitchers on the disabled list today, Ryan Vogelsong and Eric Surkamp, according to The Associated Press.
  • Bill Bene, the Dodgers’ No. 1 draft pick the year that Clayton Kershaw was born and the team won its last World Series, “agreed to plead guilty on federal charges he operated a counterfeit karaoke business and didn’t pay taxes on sales,” according to Lindsay William-Ross of LAist.
  • Sam Miller has not one, but two good pieces at Baseball Prospectus today. Check ’em out.
  • Bill Veeck: Baseball’s Greatest Maverick gets a nice review from Mike Downey in the Times, as Alex Belth of Bronx Banter notes.
  • Allow me to recommend the second-season soundtrack of Treme as a great listen.
  • If your favorite Dodgers were Burt Hooton, Eric Karros, Eric Gagne, Duke Snider and Tommy Lasorda – and you really liked Karros –  you might be able to buy into the team now.


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  1. Anonymous

    Remembering Jaime back in the early 1990s when he pitched for the Birds.  Just 32, he seemed old then.  I guess it was the style of his pitching.

  2. Anonymous

    I seem to recall a bad blood game with the Brewers last season.  And then the season before that when Prince tried to storm the clubhouse.

  3. ‘Bout time. I’m getting sick and tired of these fake karaoke machines. They’re a menace to society.

  4. Anonymous

     Kasten, grew up in a world of Holocaust survivors, including his Polish parents. “My dad spent [World War II] in camps and my mother was on the run,” he says matter-of-factly, adding that the couple met in a displaced person’s camp in 1946, came to the United States in 1949 and got married in 1950, two years before Stan Kasten was born.
    He somehow meet Ted Turner in the summer after finishing law school at Columbia. Turner hired him as legal counsel even though Kasten was in his mid twenties. A very few years later, he became either Assistant GM or GM or first assistant and then GM of the Atlanta Hawks (sources differ). 7 years later he became president of both the Hawks and the Braves in his now early 30’s. His first baseball GM was Bobby Cox; after Cox returned to field manager Kasten hired John Schuerholz who had been in the KC org. for 22 years, 9 as GM as GM of the Braves. Kasten is mentioned as an early advocate of a strong farm system to Turner. In 1999 he became president of the Atlanta Thrashers in the NHL as well. Stepped down from all 3 teams in 2003.

  5. Anonymous

    The neck thing must be from the new unnatrural pitching motion that Honeycutt is trying to teach Ted this Spring, i.e., to actually take a look again back at first before throwing a ptich from the stretch.

  6. Anonymous

    Rockies 2012 projection behind a paywall.  What did it say?

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